Senator Rand Paul: Hmmm....15 Saudis attack us on 9/11. The Saudi government kills a US journalist. A Saudi pilot in training kills 3 of our soldiers. Can anyone spot the common thread? My take: It’s way past time to quit arming and training the Saudis!

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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

September clues impact with "nose": http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-uM9kjowAsdg/U4e-uk7JpNI/AAAAAAAAAHA/mOjyWGy7Gpk/s1600/SlowMo_Nose_Out.gif

lots more angles of the impact, the "nose" is just the first plume of smoke, particularly 0:20 and 0:55 and 1:40: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abQh1AxeHWE

this nose come coming through thing seems to be the center of their argument, and it's all based on one particular camera angle.

[–]useless_aether 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

i also think its impossible for the nose to go through the steel beams and the building in one piece, when in real life a collision with a featherweight (and soft) bird destroys it. so we can agree its just an explosion..

but not of jet fuel, but hollywood pyrotechnics?

i also remember something about the third video, i think in this version it is cropped, but in the original version there is a windshield and there is no reflection of the plane in the windshield

and i know another instance of a video presented here, but without a plane, just the explosion.

and the last point is that the wings of the planes are not strong enough to cut through the steel beams, yet it looks like they did. they placed explosive charges to make a hole in the wtc in the shape of an airplane. it is clearly visible in some shots

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I still think the simpler explanation is a real plane. We're talking like 10 camera angles, some of which only came out years later. And lots of eye witnesses saw the second plane.

I'll look into the plane shaped hole. From what I remember the major structural beams were mostly left intact.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A plane, but a drone, not like a predator drone, but a reinforced tanker or passenger jet remotely flown into a beacon.