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Senator Rand Paul: Hmmm....15 Saudis attack us on 9/11. The Saudi government kills a US journalist. A Saudi pilot in training kills 3 of our soldiers. Can anyone spot the common thread? My take: It’s way past time to quit arming and training the Saudis!
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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (21 children)
September clues impact with "nose": http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-uM9kjowAsdg/U4e-uk7JpNI/AAAAAAAAAHA/mOjyWGy7Gpk/s1600/SlowMo_Nose_Out.gif
lots more angles of the impact, the "nose" is just the first plume of smoke, particularly 0:20 and 0:55 and 1:40: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abQh1AxeHWE
this nose come coming through thing seems to be the center of their argument, and it's all based on one particular camera angle.
[–]useless_aether 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago* (20 children)
i also think its impossible for the nose to go through the steel beams and the building in one piece, when in real life a collision with a featherweight (and soft) bird destroys it. so we can agree its just an explosion..
but not of jet fuel, but hollywood pyrotechnics?
i also remember something about the third video, i think in this version it is cropped, but in the original version there is a windshield and there is no reflection of the plane in the windshield
and i know another instance of a video presented here, but without a plane, just the explosion.
and the last point is that the wings of the planes are not strong enough to cut through the steel beams, yet it looks like they did. they placed explosive charges to make a hole in the wtc in the shape of an airplane. it is clearly visible in some shots
[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (17 children)
I still think the simpler explanation is a real plane. We're talking like 10 camera angles, some of which only came out years later. And lots of eye witnesses saw the second plane.
I'll look into the plane shaped hole. From what I remember the major structural beams were mostly left intact.
[–]useless_aether 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (15 children)
and if planes then they were something remote controlled?
[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (6 children)
I don't know much about that part, I imagine so. I still need to look into Jesus theories like the planes being switched out.
[–]useless_aether 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun - 4 years ago (4 children)
u/jesus help us
[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (0 children)
It was a psyop. Read Israeli's CLean Break document, the document includes attacking and balkanizing Saudi Arabia, eventually. All this psyop does is increase islamaphobia, and hilariously, the shooter, probably part of the naval intelligence psyop tweeted just before the shootign about how he hated Israel and thought the US government was anti-muslim. LMFAO. It's all carefulyl scripted and fabricated, JSUT LIEK THE 9/11 hijacker stories who had Mossad agents and probably CIA operatives with them. There goal, according to ELias Davidsson and Graham MacQueen was to simualte the narrative so that the Zionist media, knowign what would transpire be able to weave together all the links needed to frame them, though they were ALWAYS apart of the psyop narrative.
THis shotoing is no different and in my newpaper, it was featured on the front page. It covertly, listed the main goals of this psyop, which include Israel's "Clean Break agenda, increasing Islamaphobia, psuhing for censorship via his alleged social media posts before the shooting, it even talked about reevoking the 1st amendment to prevent these terror attacks in the future, I kid you not. My paper is owned by a ZIonist Jew, so, there's that. I flip the page, the next story is Trump talking about how he is the greatest president for Israel to ever live. Next to it is the Boston Bombng article, and if the patsy for a PSYOP hoax unbombing got a fair trial or if he should of had been put to death. Again, cross marketing psyops, and producy placement propaganda. Thusly, an increase in islamaphobia. Funyn enough the article was written for Trump being the best president for Israle in of all places, HOLLYWOOD, FL, where the 9/11 hijackers were situated with their handlers.
ALL SCRIPTED andn perfectly fabricated psychlogical oeprations even on the local news scale.
ALSO, FUCK RAND Paul! Psyops, after Psyops, after cross marketing more PSYOPS, = Schema and perception management.
LOL, I forgot to mention that the fake Saudi shooter also watched mass shooting videos before his spree. PSYOP= researchers should not watch or research raw footage or research any mass shooting or expose them as frauds becuase they COULD BE TERRORISTS.
I'll write up a post about Northwoods and how I think they did the plane psyop with good spelling and sentence structure in a few days.
[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (0 children)
EDIT: spelling. Idc though.
I'll write up something soon. Yes, most of the Pilots for 9/11 truh believe the planes were switched or never left that day. They never had to be switched in mid-air because they were phantom planes, at least one of them was. Read the ENTIRE declassified Northwoods document. Mock victims and fake funerals, drones flown via remote control into beacons.
[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (7 children)
I found something on the wing impact damage. They're saying the wings didn't cut through steel. To me it looks like they kinda did, but it naturally fades out as you get closer to the tip. It has some good pictures at least. http://debunkingnoplanes.blogspot.com/2014/07/911-no-planes-fail-blog-dr-judy-wood.html
[–]useless_aether 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun - 4 years ago (2 children)
well i agree that judy wood is unreliable. but i thought so is the nist report. i also like the comments, found this there, i don't remember seeing it before (missile at the pentagon?):
http://stateofthenation2012.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/5dbc426c4403.gif
[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (1 child)
^ DUDE, theat video is fake, you knwo that right. It was debuked a long tiem ago. Why are you pushing that?
[–]useless_aether 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago* (0 children)
no, i did not know it is fake. how and why is it fake anyway? and i am not 'pushing' anything, don't bite my head off! :-)
you mean nothing hit the pentagon, and they simply detonated explosives that they previously installed?
Now, if a drone did hit, and we know they RIGGED THE TOWERS with nano-thermite, larger explosives and detcord, would they really want to fly a drone into a building thus possibly destorying the wiring of the buidign with explosives? I'm playing devils advocate here. How could they ensure that the drone would not mess up the placement of the explosives? Maybe they used nano-thermite to cut the steel jsut below the plane impacts and then a few sotires below used regular demo charges, idk?
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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun - 4 years ago (1 child)
yeah they're debunking her.. i guess the title looks misleading hahaaa
[–]useless_aether 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (0 children)
yes, at first i wrote a whole comment, only to delete it a few seconds later :-)
A plane, but a drone, not like a predator drone, but a reinforced tanker or passenger jet remotely flown into a beacon.
They just took out the plane, to show you what the explosion would look like without it. Ask, youself, who first pushed no plane theory, and who first pushed drone theory?
[–]useless_aether 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (0 children)
well?
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