This is Joey Salads. An avid trump supporter, a Nazi and like many other members of the "party of family values" he likes to piss in his own mouth. This is a typical Trump supporter, ladies and gentlemen.

IamRedBeard · 2019-10-25T10:31:05+00:00

And this is the article for his bid to congress https://www.thedailybeast.com/joey-salads-youtube-star-famous-for-racist-pranks-launches-congressional-bid

Only71Genders · 2019-10-24T06:24:57+00:00

Republicans just don't believe in killing babies. Has nothing to do with the pregnant woman. Meanwhile, Democrats think it's okay for a woman to rape a boy (or occasionally a man) and force him to support the baby, even after she is convicted. 18 years of forced labor as a reward for being raped. At least raped women can give a baby up for adoption.

pointyball · 2019-10-23T18:19:51+00:00

What a ridiculous statement. Only Islam believes its OK to rape.

Jesus · 2019-10-22T07:28:13+00:00

Also, even more hilarious, now that I'm thinking about cognitive infiltration and controlled oppositions.

In February 2007, under the title “Brave new Wikiworld”, Sunstein penned an article in the zionist propaganda outlet Washington Post, warning the world of the dangerous new Wikileaks, a place where “anyone could edit” and was likely run by Chinese hackers. Lol

This, of course, worked like catnip on many political dissidents who were tired of endless wars and government corruption, and an obscure anemic looking Aussie was now becoming a household name.

Cass Sunstein had officially and successfully lounged Julian Assange’s career as an anti-establishment hacker and a free speech advocate. This little article made a big splash and rumors spread like ripples on the internet and cemented his reputation as a legit anti-war and free speech activist.

Assange, who later on hired Alan Dershowitz to handle his legal defence, has to this day never leaked anything that has lead to any concrete changes, nor has Wikispooks ever leaked anything about Israel’s and the neocons roll in 9/11. Actually, wilileaks has leaked more documemts on Iran in their trigger words for documents than any other country.

Jesus · 2019-10-22T07:18:58+00:00

Hey /u/redBeard and /u/shivashivashiva

The state and its internal interlocks, mechanisms, and machinations are either using Trump for their ulterior agendas, or, and more likely that he, Trump is complicit in this coordinated PSYOP that I will try to explain below.

Trump's role is that of a controlled opposition, limited hangout deterrent. He plays a theatrical role in establishing an antithesis of the establishment minions, particularly the ones espousing power geopolitics.

For instance: His role in badgering the media as "fake news"...

(a 'coverup' term created in a bi-partisan effort that skillfully withdraws the legitimate status or authority of the terms PROPAGANDA, perception management, and psychological operations)

...is a faux partisan effort to engender discord, division and confusion but primarily to reestablish the media as a legitimate source of truth?

How is that possible? Is he not delegitimatizing the media when he allegedly tweets how the news lies about "HIM". Or how during every press conference he yells "fake news."

Well that is the agenda precisely. Trump is the faux antithesis of the media. So, the aforementioned agenda of creating fervent, partisan political and geopolitical viewpoints ...

(in the case of geopolitics: an isolationist agenda, i.e., Just scroll through Drudge and other faux alternative and mainstream news outlets and political pundits praising Trump for his anti-war rhetoric)

...despite what their actions may be was a behind the curtains plan cooked up by the DoD and the 7th floor groups. In fact, the entire state, from top to bottom, left to right, was probably involved.

Case in point, if they continue to cover-up 9/11 and the neocons involvement of whom also fronted the Bush administrations global war on terror, and the obvious and now scientifically proven demolition of WTC7, which they do, then I'm sure of it... I'm sure they ARE all involved in this carefully crafted reverse psychology agenda.

It is the only way they can remain in control. The statist, neoliberal democrats need Trump more than anything, the entire state does. They need a boogyman, a puppet figure to take the blame or to be hailed as a savior. They need a faux isolationist to pander to the anti-war, libertarian crowd. They need a controlled opposition to stigmatize the media in a partisan way in order to create political division (this too legitmizes CNN, for those who cannot stand Trump and Fox News for diehard Trump fans.) They need a puppet figure to legitimize the media's narrative as either a.) truthful (FOX News, lol) b.) truthful with major, "bigly" bias, it's fake news, he says (CNN, MSNBC, etc.). But certainly not fake news in what I and thousands of other truth seekers are suggesting. We have come to understand that media works in a bi-partisan effort under the guise of partisan theatrics. When it comes to utilizing the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act, there is a bi-partisan effort to propagandize concocted DoD and DHS backed narratives. Patently false and even fictional psychological operations on a grand scale or simply in the subtleties of a written article; from the unnamed sources they use, to the trigger words they weave into their narratives, are officially legal and orchestrated daily.

You begin to see a highly coordinated bi-partisan agenda to KEEP YOU IN THE MATRIX. So, Trump's display affirms that we must believe the news is a priority, if not, THE PRIORITY. It does not matter if you myopically identity with the left or the right; libertarian or independent, if you are watching or reading about it and believe it, you are still under its spell and will forever be fooled.

So, throughout the Bush, and Obama administration people were waking up in mass, a bi-partisan awakening. More than half the county believes the government's official 9/11 narrative is a lie. Hence, why the Obama administration appointed Trotskyite Zionist, Cass Sunstein, who was called in to induce a cognitive infiltration campaign on all truth seekers. Interestingly, this is when the limited hangout narratives and controlled oppositions sprang up in mass.

As leader of cognitive infiltration, Sunstein, promoted the leader of the “bin Laden raid,” William McRaven, pushing for continued intervention in Syria, under the guise of “standing up for oppression and injustice.”

This pushing for intervention in Syria was a theatrical drama in opposition of Trump's,in words ONLY, foreign policy agenda. When we look back at it, we see Trump shilling for the various chemical weapon attacks in Syria that have been exposed as western backed proxy false flags. For more information, see ClarityofSignal's website.

https://twitter.com/CassSunstein/status/1184928709473644544?s=20

^ ^ ^ Read Cass Sunstein's own tweet and keep in mind that he was directly involved in covering up 9/11 and initiating a campaign in order to infiltrate the 9/11 truth movement.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHCWwj1X4AMizSc.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHCWwj1WsAEgaEJ.jpg

^ ^ ^ ALL BY DESIGN

COGNITIVE INFILTRATION

FormosaOolong · 2019-10-21T03:37:49+00:00

Jeeezus, Jesus! Now you've given us so much homework!

shivashivashiva · 2019-10-20T06:20:12+00:00

great idea!

shivashivashiva · 2019-10-20T06:19:46+00:00

well done!

Jesus · 2019-10-20T05:50:37+00:00

As for your attack on conservatives. I do not fault you for it.

The Bible is very easy to understand. But we Christians are a bunch of scheming swindlers. We pretend to be unable to understand it because we know very well that the minute we understand, we are obliged to act accordingly.

Soren Kierkegaard --

Read his books, if you have not. They are not just for Christians. He is for me, one of the greatest writers of all time.

and:

“Love is the expression of the one who loves, not of the one who is loved. Those who think they can love only the people they prefer do not love at all. Love discovers truths about individuals that others cannot see” ― Soren Kierkegaard

Jesus · 2019-10-20T05:46:36+00:00

https://www.azquotes.com/quote/893381

Jesus · 2019-10-20T05:40:40+00:00

Conservatives actions against their neighbors are fundamentally immoral.

That's a huge, sweeping claim to make. I think traditionalism is not fundamentally immoral, nor are the true principles that real conservatives hold. It should be said that the majority of conservatives are Christian, and if they are true followers of Christ, they must follow in his footsteps. The fundamentalist and denominationaliat christianity we observe today is very much at odds with the true teachings of Jesus.

You arrogantly think you have superiority over people of other skin colors.

Who are you suggesting thinks this, all conservatives? I have conservative and liberal values and believe I'm a lesser person than even my enemies because I answer before God. The crowd you are referring to, seems small in comparison and not a legitimate threat. Of course, the media on both the left and right would have you think differently because the military-financial-corporate-media-government-complex understands that perpetuating division through class and race is the very best method in controlling a society. Obama did this with Sunstein's cognitive infiltration PSYOP, Trump's administration is carrying out this VERY SAME PSYOP.

You fight and shill for the Wealthy, only for the .00002% chance that you may one day be wealthy.

I agree that many conservatives and liberal statists alike... that includes must of the democrats as well as the neoconservative, and neoliberal controlled GOP shill for the ruse of modern free market enterprise. They preach free markets and yet control markets via price fixing. They preach honest barriers of entry in words only and yet are the forbearers of the increasing wealth inequality, monopolies, oligopolies and unreasonable barriers of entry that plague the United States of America today.

Would I blame conservatives or liberals in general? No, I would not. I believe it is a particular set of statists and authoritarians in government, politics, business, banking, defense and media that have led us down this path; scheming and plotting for themselves and their buddies own agendas and interests. A plot, in fact, that has existed throughout antiquity to the present day.

Conservatives have no real moral compass, because you believe every sin you cast and whatever evil you do is forgiven just for the asking by the very savior whose teachings you ignore.

Extreme white conservatives calling themselves "tea party" militants emerged in the GOP.

Again, your using a reductio ad absurdums here and a gross, sweeping generalization. I know people with traditional conservative values, God feating people who maintain a positive morality unlike most people. I could say the same for many liberals and existentialist Christians.

You might find the forefather of Christian existentialism to be of interest. For he was starkly against the denominational, evangelist and Catholic church but was a true follower of the teachings of Jesus. Actually, I think you should read his works. And no, your sins are not forgiven just because you ask for forgiveness. You pray to God and the Son of Man in meekness. You pray and ask for forgiveness, understanding that what you did was wrong. You become aware of your sins and position your moral compass on Jesus and his teachings. All your sins WILL BE JUDGED on judgment day by the Son of Man. As for the conservatives you see in the news. They are mostly neotrotskyite communists. The GOP has been hijacked by Zionists and Neoconservatives, who are NOT conservatives and for the most part are not Christian. The problem with the evangelist denominational portion of Christianity is that it has been infiltrated by Zionists and warmongers preaching a false gospel. Trump was a former democrat and is not a Christian. He attends a Presbyterian Church, but has admitted in an interview that he does not pray and does not ask for the forgiveness for his sins. He said, “you know, I never really asked God for forgiveness.” It is to be understood that asking for forgiveness is NOT an exemption to continue to sin. Real Christians understand this.

He is what you would call a church goer and nothing more. Not a true Christian.

But at least when I first came into the world in the mid 70's to the 80's you had some people in the party that I at least respected.

Yeah, real conservatives, not the fake ones we see today.

IamRedBeard · 2019-10-20T02:41:50+00:00

Good gravy it is going to take a week to go through all this. Ill look into it.

IamRedBeard · 2019-10-20T02:39:25+00:00

Of all the the folks I talk to on here, debate and argue with I probably respect you the most.

I dont buy all of this, tough. Who in their right mind, for whatever reward down the line would want to go down in history as the animal this man is? For whatever their plots or plans others have counter plots and plans - and why be forever marked a devil in history's eyes? And even if you dont live on to bear the shame your family surly will. It defy's human nature.

And look - Trump has attacked his own intelligence agency - Time and time again and made himself look the traitor.

If you look like a traitor to the people that are in charge of anti-terror and an enemy to your own spooks - Are you Really going to be that surprised when they try to bring you down? Trump is attacking his own ally's and all I can see in the future is a bi-partisan effort in the future to be sure we dont ever get another "Trump-like" president ever again. All I can see come from that is good.

One thing is for sure - Trump has divided our government, and our citizens. I will do my best, always to share the news available to me to spread his shame and to point out the failings of the New Republican Party.

Glad to see you are still here. I think even though we disagree on many things, your heart remains in the right place and while I might skimp over and dismiss what I perceive as ignorance or misinformation by others here - I always read your arguments.

Jesus · 2019-10-20T02:36:29+00:00

Shiva stay calm and redbread also stay calm.

Jesus · 2019-10-20T02:35:45+00:00

I sent you all the evidence on bin Laden. You might want to look it over and stop generalizing, it is very annoying.

Jesus · 2019-10-20T02:28:45+00:00

Part 3

In July 2002, Time Magazine reports that "intelligence officials are not certain whether Osama bin Laden is alive or dead" but that "they have found a tantalizing document that suggests he was living at least as recently as the last days of December [of 2001]." Link:

http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1002840,00.html

In July 2002, The New York Times runs another article on how Osama bin Laden is likely dead. The author notes how unusual it would be for bin Laden, known for his constant desire for media attention, would be silent for over half a year. Link:

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/11/opinion/the-death-of-bin-ladenism.html

October 2002: Intelligence Officials Confirm bin Laden is Dead; bin Laden's Will is Released Also in October 2002 the D.C.-based news service The World Tribune, citing **Israeli intelligence sources, reports that the United States and Israel have concluded that bin Laden died in Afghanistan in December 2001. They note that additional bin Laden messages are "probably fabrications," and that bin Laden's heir has been chosen.

[One should be well aware that Mossad and 7th floor agencies within the US government including the Lukidnik, Israeli aligned neoconservative (neotrotskyite) think tanks did NOT WANT TO invade Afghanistan. Instead, they pushed for intervention in Iraq, the ousting of Saddam and called for ground troops and targeted airstrikes in Palestine. They called for all of this on the day of 9/11 before anyone knew what had happened or who was responsible. William and Irving Kristol, his father stated that they didn't care about Afghanistan. In fact, many of the PNACers didn't care about Afghanistan. So, it makes perfect sense that there were multiple agendas when it came to the 9/11 launch pad into the Global War on Terror. Afghanistan was a sidepiece that was effectively about taken out the Taliban to allow for pipelines, pushed by UNESCO.] Link:

http://web.archive.org/web/20021205223313/http://216.26.163.62/2002/me_terrorism_10_16.html

The president of Afghanistan also concludes that bin Laden is probably dead:

"The more we don't hear of him, and the more time passes, there is the likelihood that he probably is either dead or seriously wounded somewhere." Link:

http://edition.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/central/10/06/karzai.binladen/

In October 2002 CNN reports that U.S. intelligence officials have obtained Osama bin Laden's will, which is dated December 14, 2001 (approximately the same date as has been reported bin Laden's funeral in Tora Bora by Fox News and other outlets). CNN also reports that there has been no evidence of bin Laden since December of 2001. Link:

http://edition.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europe/10/26/binladen.will/

2002 Onwards: Efforts to Target bin Laden are Closed Down; bin Laden = "Elvis" In 2004, the LA Times quotes Donald Rumsfeld (who mixes up Hussein with bin Laden) as admitting: "We've not seen him [bin Laden] on a video since 2001." Link:

http://newsmine.org/content.php?ol=9-11/binladen/death/rumsfeld-says-no-clues-to-bin-laden-since-2001.txt

In 2006 the New York Times reports the CIA had officially closed down the unit focused on capturing bin Laden the previous year. Link:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/04/washington/04intel.html?ex=1309665600&en=3779ed9b98bb9d22&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

In 2006, U.S. and Pakistani officials say they have not received any information about bin Laden in years:

"no tips from informants, no snippets from electronic intercepts, no points on any satellite image."

The article rehashes the December 2001 video of bin Laden as the most recent evidence (other than a second-hand claim from 2003) of bin Laden's existence. Some commandos are now giving Osama bin Laden the codename "Elvis." Link:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/09/AR2006090901105.html

The available reports overwhelmingly supports the view that bin Laden died of kidney failure in December of 2001. We have mainstream media reports from a variety of sources, and zero credible evidence since then, as admitted by top level offiicals. Even if you believe the official story, the evidence very strongly suggests some entity (either the CIA, Saudi Royal Family, the Pakistani government, or all the above) helped bin Laden survive long enough via medical treatments to be killed at a later point in time. This very well could be the "one big lie" Seymour Hersh has mentioned in The Guardian recently.

Jesus · 2019-10-20T02:27:38+00:00

Part 2

At this time CBS news also runs a story on bin Laden receiving kidney disease treatments in Pakistan the week before 9/11.

Osama bin Laden Near Death in 2002 (from Dan Rather CBS); US Government bin Laden LIE In January of 2002, The Guardian reports that the president of Pakistan speculates that bin Laden is now dead of untreated kidney disease based on video and photographs of a gaunt-looking bin Laden. Link:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/jan/19/afghanistan.oliverburkeman

In January of 2002, based on his analysis of video and photographs of bin Laden from December 2001, CNN's Dr. Sanjay Gupta says that bin Laden seems to be having renal failure. He notes kidney dialysis is expensive, and suggests bin Laden would need help in obtaining medical treatment. Link:

http://edition.cnn.com/2002/HEALTH/01/21/gupta.otsc/

In March 2002, the BBC reports on an interview with bin Laden's wife, who speaks of bin Laden in the past tense, notes his failing kidney and frequent use of pills and other medicines. She says she has not seen her husband since September 2001, but holds out hope that he is still alive:

"I feel deep inside me that he is still alive."

She also notes that bin Laden's wish was to die in Afghanistan and nowhere else:

"He never spoke to me about his intention to leave Afghanistan and always wished to die there. He told me once that if he ever left Afghanistan, it would be to meet his Creator."

She also says that bin Laden:

"always suffered from kidney and stomach pains" and that he "told me once that he was going to Pakistan for treatment." Link:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/monitoring/media_reports/1871182.stm

In March and April of 2002, U.S. officials downplay the threat of bin Laden, with Rumsfeld even saying the bin Laden threat has been "neutralized."

Even Bush, called out for rarely mentioning bin Laden in 2002, admits:

"We haven't heard from him [bin Laden] in a long time... I don't know where he is. I really just don't spend that much time on him, to be honest with you."

Bush:

Truly not concerned about bin Laden (short version) In May 2002, ABC News reports on a new spliced-together tape from unknown time periods in which bin Laden appears "about the same" (that is, sickly-looking) as in the tape from December 2011.

ABC News also says they have "learned intelligence reports indicate bin Laden had received a kidney transplant in Pakistan," but do not know when. Link:

http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=79973&page=1

*July 2002: FBI Chief Says bin Laden is Most Likely Dead; * Nothing from bin Laden Since December 2001 In July 2002, the BBC reveals a bombshell: the FBI's counter-terrorism chief Dale Watson says bin Laden is '"probably dead."

Conveniently, bin Laden's followers' claim that bin Laden will" not make more video statements until his group launches another attack on the United States." [official narrative is a lie] Link:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2135473.stm

In July 2002, CNN reports that bin Laden's close bodyguards were captured in February of 2002, but not bin Laden. The article also quotes mentions some high-level officials: "Some high-level U.S. officials are already convinced by such evidence that bin Laden, who has not been seen or heard from in months, is dead." Link:

http://web.archive.org/web/20021204040117/http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/07/30/binladen.son/

Jesus · 2019-10-20T02:26:20+00:00

Part 1

All sources are from the mainstream media, many of which have since been "scrubbed" from the internet. 2000 to September 2001: Reports Emerge of bin Laden Dying From Kidney Disease

/u/IamRedBeard

/u/shivashivashiva

In light of highly regraded independent journalist Sy Hersh's claim that the raid on Osama bin Laden in 2011 is "one big lie", [a HOAX] here's an overview of evidence in support of an alternative narrative: bin Laden died in December 2001 in Tora Bora from a lung complication as a result of kidney failure starting at least since mid-2000.

In March 2000 the Chicago Tribune reports that an Afghan witness and "Western intelligence official" say bin Laden is suffering from severe kidney and liver failure. Link:

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2000-03-25/news/0003250085_1_laden-bin-religious-militia

This story was also picked up by CBS News in 2000, who outright lead with the title that "Bin Laden Reported to be Dying" from "kidney disease." Link:

http://web.archive.org/web/20010212010328/http://www.cbsnews.com/now/story/0,1597,172666-412,00.shtml

In July 2001, the South Asia Analysis Group reports:

"Bin Laden, who suffers from renal deficiency, has been periodically undergoing dialysis in a Peshawar military hospital with the knowledge and approval of the Inter-Services Intelligence, (ISI) if not of Gen.Pervez Musharraf himself." Link:

http://web.archive.org/web/20011007021426/http://www.saag.org/papers3/paper266.html

September to November 2001: bin Laden is Trapped in Afghanistan, Unable to Receive Kidney Treatments.

In September 2001, PBS' Frontline interviews the former general counsel for the CIA, mentioning reports from 1998 that the DEA found out Osama bin Laden was undergoing kidney dialysis with a doctor in Peshwar. They mention further that the DEA wanted to poison bin Laden through his dialysis machine... Link:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/terrorism/interviews/smith.html

In November 2001, The Guardian is reporting that French intelligence officials say Bin Laden was flown to Dubai for kidney treatment in July of 2001, where he also met with several CIA agents and the head of Saudi intelligence. This story is also picked up by several French newspapers. Link:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/nov/01/afghanistan.terrorism

In his first interview since 9/11, in November 2001 bin Laden talks to a Pakistani newspaper and claims that his "kidneys are all right" and denies visiting a hospital in Dubai the previous year (note that he may have visited one in Pakistan). In the same interview he also asserts, clearly lying, that he has "nuclear weapons." Link:

http://dawn.com/news/5647/osama-claims-he-has-nukes-if-us-uses-n-arms-it-will-get-same-response/2

December 2001: bin Laden is Dead, Buried in Afghanistan In December of 2001, the New York Times reports on "high-level murmurings that bin Laden is dead." Link:

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/12/26/international/asia/26LADE.html

That same day, citing a Taliban source, Fox News reports that bin Laden has died due to an "untreated lung complication" from kidney disease. About 30 "close associates" reportedly attended bin Laden's funeral in the Tora Bora region of Afghanistan. A source concludes that the U.S. government and other forces are in a "mad search operation" but will never be able to locate the now-dead bin Laden, buried in an unmarked location. Link:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/2001/12/26/report-bin-laden-already-dead/

Late December 2001 to March 2002: bin Laden's "Death Video" is Released In late December of 2001, after reports of bin Laden's funeral, a new video appears of a gaunt, sickly Osama bin Laden. The London Telegraph reports, verbatim:

"The recording was dismissed by the Bush administration yesterday as sick propaganda possibly designed to mask the fact the al-Qa'eda leader was already dead."

One aid further concludes that the video was created earlier in the event bin Laden is dead, who by December of 2001 was so heavily surrounded he would have been unable to escape to obtain kidney dialysis. Link:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/1366508/US-casts-doubt-on-bin-Ladens-latest-message.html

Jesus · 2019-10-20T01:46:56+00:00

Bin Laden died in 2001 and no later than December of 2003. Tarpley and Seymor Hersh wrote a great article on this.

Jesus · 2019-10-20T01:44:55+00:00

I swear /u/IamRedBeard that these narratives are psyops. I'm under the belief that Bin Laden died of kidney failure long ago, possibly before 2001 but no later than December of 2003. Being that he was on a dialysis machine and near death in 2000, I'm sure he didn't live much longer. But let us believe our corrupt government, who I believe helped orchestrate 9/11. Why throw his body in the ocean? It just isn't plausible in my opinion and of course was a key event, very convienemt in Obombings reelection.

What I see here is a reverse pychology narrative. Trump wants you to hate him. That's the point. Trump's antiwar warhawk rhetoric is not a paradox but a carefully scripted psyop, Sunstein cognitive infiltration style.

If we can get enough people to despise Trump, and Trump will play this role (his alleged Tweets clearly illustrate this) then the opposing opinions and beliefs will seem more plausible. Such as more war, intervention and defense spending.

The people in the DoD pushing this highly coordinated perception management campaign know what they are doing. 90% of the funds for intelligence agencies who work closely with media and government is utilized for the sole purpose of making you believe a lie as truth.

So, maybe Trump's faux opposition and these intelligence spooks are limited hangouts or highly coordinated perception management campaigns.

Jesus · 2019-10-20T01:25:48+00:00

Nah, they're a bunch of duginist eurasianist culture subverters.

shivashivashiva · 2019-10-19T05:35:17+00:00

babes.. i can be loud, but really am never angry...!

thanks for the hearsay.... do you even know what the term "proof" or "evidence" means?!..

Chipit · 2019-10-19T05:32:31+00:00

That doesn't say a thing about the non switch I was talking about.

extreme white conservatives calling themselves "tea party" militants emerged in the GOP.

Wow, there's some unbiased non-political journalism right there. How dare the little people politically organize!

I'm old enough to remember when journalists were on the side of the people against power. This is the opposite.

shivashivashiva · 2019-10-19T05:32:22+00:00

babes is you freud back from the dead, a glow monkey, a dupe or just retarded... you speak of things you know nothing about, real cute!

IamRedBeard · 2019-10-19T05:11:26+00:00

I bet anything that remotely sounds like reason, sounds like "Ratshit" to you.

I'm willing to bet you weren't burdened with an overabundance of education.

IamRedBeard · 2019-10-19T05:09:25+00:00

You ARE the evidence.

Angry, angry child.

But here you go, right out of your own Presidents playbook: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/5/9/17335306/trump-tweet-twitter-latest-fake-news-credentials

Eat shit and live :D

shivashivashiva · 2019-10-19T03:28:12+00:00

shut the fuck up retard, i called you on your stupid accusations... and yet you have zero evidence!!!

shivashivashiva · 2019-10-19T03:20:17+00:00

suggesting that a "nationalist" is only "arrogant" could easily be disproven and sounds like ratshit to me!

IamRedBeard · 2019-10-19T03:07:16+00:00

Strangely, over a century, America's two major political parties gradually reversed identities, like the magnetic poles of Planet Earth switching direction.

When the Republican Party was formed in 1856, it was fiercely liberal, opposing the expansion of slavery, calling for more spending on public education, seeking more open immigration and the like. Compassionate Abraham Lincoln suited the new party's progressive agenda.

In that era, Democrats were conservatives, partly dominated by the slave-holding South. Those old-style Democrats generally opposed any government action to create jobs or help underdogs.

Through the latter half of the 19th century, the pattern of Republicans as liberals, Democrats as conservatives, generally held true. In 1888, the GOP elected President Benjamin Harrison (1833-1901) on a liberal platform seeking more social services.

Then in 1896, a reversal began when Democrats nominated populist firebrand William Jennings Bryan (1860-1925), "the Great Commoner."

"He was the first liberal to win the Democratic Party presidential nomination," political scholar Rich Rubino wrote. "This represented a radical departure from the conservative roots of the Democratic Party."

Meanwhile, the GOP began shifting to conservative. Theodore Roosevelt (1858-1919) - a vice president who took the top office after William McKinley was assassinated in 1901 - was a Republican liberal who supported a "Square Deal" for working families. He broke up monopolistic trusts of rich corporations. He championed pure food and drugs. He created national parks and forests for the enjoyment of everyone. He won the 1906 Nobel Peace Prize for helping end war between Russia and Japan.

After leaving office, Roosevelt felt that his successor, William Howard Taft (1857-1930), was leading America too far to the right. So T.R. challenged Taft for the GOP nomination in 1912, and lost. In rebellion, Roosevelt gathered his liberal delegates and formed the Progressive Party, with a bold platform bordering on socialism.

The new-formed party called for universal medical care under a National Health Service. It sought government pensions for retirees, plus compensation for the jobless and disabled. It demanded an eight-hour workday and a minimum wage for women. It sought a constitutional amendment to allow a federal income tax. It supported voting by women, more freedom for workers to organize and strike, inheritance tax on rich estates, worker's compensation for on-the-job injuries, and many other left-wing goals.

The Progressive platform attacked big-money influence in politics, vowing "to destroy this invisible government, to dissolve the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics."

Roosevelt was a fiery orator and writer, saying: "I believe that there should be a very much heavier progressive tax on very large incomes, a tax which should increase in a very marked fashion for the gigantic incomes."

While Roosevelt was campaigning in Milwaukee in 1912, a crazed assassin, John Schrank - who claimed that the ghost of William McKinley asked him to avenge McKinley's death by killing Roosevelt - shot the Progressive candidate in the chest. The bullet was partly deflected by Roosevelt's 50-page speech and his steel eyeglasses case, but wounded him nonetheless. Bleeding, he continued to orate unfazed.

Later, when reporters asked if the wounding would deter his campaign, Roosevelt replied that he was "fit as a bull moose." Thereafter, his party was dubbed the Bull Moose Party.

Progressives won about one-fourth of the 1912 popular vote, and Democrat Woodrow Wilson (1856-1924) attained the presidency. In 1916, Roosevelt declined the Progressive nomination, and the liberal party he created soon disintegrated.

In a sense, Teddy Roosevelt was the last major Republican liberal. Ensuing decades saw the GOP grow steadily more conservative, and Democrats acquire the liberal mantle. When the Great Depression struck, the "New Deal" of Democrat Franklin Delano Roosevelt (1882-1945), Theodore's nephew-in-law, achieved landmark progressive reforms.

In the 1960s, the "Great Society" of Democrat Lyndon Johnson (1908- 1973) vastly expanded the public safety net and gave legal equality to African-Americans - driving racist Dixie out of the Democratic Party, into the GOP.

Then Republican President Ronald Reagan (1911-2004) mobilized the "religious right" of white evangelicals for his party. Later, extreme white conservatives calling themselves "tea party" militants emerged in the GOP.

All this outlines America's political flipflop - how the liberal Republican Party turned conservative, and the conservative Democratic Party turned liberal. It was a fascinating transition.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/opinion/article/How-Democrats-and-Republicans-switched-beliefs-9226115.php

IamRedBeard · 2019-10-19T03:02:20+00:00

Just a second, I have to look through all the heads I keep in jars in my house.

Good lord I just rolled my eyes at your comment so hard I almost have a migraine.

Hyperbole and Fallacy abound. Is that all you can do is be absurd?

shivashivashiva · 2019-10-19T02:45:45+00:00

more gibberish babes, or do you have osama bin ladens head you would like to show me?!.

Chipit · 2019-10-19T01:28:39+00:00

Actually, the election evidence shows that the GOP absorbed the Peripheral South and gained in the South primarily from the importing transplants into the region, not by converting Dixiecrats and Democratic Party KKK leaders like Robert Byrd into Republicans. The racist Democrats in the Solid South primarily stayed Democrats. The GOP got more votes from the non-racists, both among the existing population and from immigrants from other States to turn the South into their voting block, beginning with the least (not most) racist States. The details have been written up in many places, but here's one I found with a quick search if you're looking for more details.

http://www.claremont.org/crb/article/the-myth-of-the-racist-republicans/

To quote that article in relation to the myth you keep trying to spread:

"Starting in the 1950s, the South attracted millions of Midwesterners, Northeasterners, and other transplants. These "immigrants" identified themselves as Republicans at higher rates than native whites. In the 1980s, up to a quarter of self-declared Republicans in Texas appear to have been such immigrants. Furthermore, research consistently shows that identification with the GOP is stronger among the South's younger rather than older white voters, and that each cohort has also became more Republican with time. Do we really believe immigrants were more racist than native Southerners, and that younger Southerners identified more with white solidarity than did their elders, and that all cohorts did so more by the 1980s and '90s than they had earlier?

In sum, the GOP's Southern electorate was not rural, nativist, less educated, afraid of change, or concentrated in the most stagnant parts of the Deep South. It was disproportionately suburban, middle-class, educated, younger, non-native-Southern, and concentrated in the growth-points that were, so to speak, the least "Southern" parts of the South."

Or as the NY Times put it: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/10/magazine/10Section2b.t-4.html?mcubz=0

"In the postwar era, they note, the South transformed itself from a backward region to an engine of the national economy, giving rise to a sizable new wealthy suburban class. This class, not surprisingly, began to vote for the party that best represented its economic interests: the G.O.P. Working-class whites, however - and here's the surprise - even those in areas with large black populations, stayed loyal to the Democrats. (This was true until the 90s, when the nation as a whole turned rightward in Congressional voting.)

IamRedBeard · 2019-10-19T01:23:06+00:00

The Democratic party changed in the 60's and became the modern Republican party.

Anybody who debates politics even casually, knows this.

Yea, its been popular for corrupt right wing politicians to run a left wing campaign and flip when they get in, like Hitler did.

Left wingers are Tree Huggers, Earth loving fools Tolerant of people of different cultures, Ideals, and sexual orientation and color. (Not necessarily tolerant of your evil rhetoric or bullshit)

Yes, the laws were in effect under the Obama administration, but NEVER used to the extent that they are now in holocaust style overpopulated politically motivated camps.

You can go cram your whataboutism and trying to turn the tables with false narrative. It does not work here, kiddo. Go push rope with other people in your echo chambers that dont know history.

Chipit · 2019-10-19T00:54:51+00:00

You cage children.

That was Obama's policy.

The rest is just an unstable emotional rant with no citations or evidence. I mean, come on, Nazis?

I support an armed populace, personal freedom, democracy, and small government. All of which are not supported under Nazism. And yet I'm supposedly a Nazi because I'm a right winger.

Mussolini was a socialist radical all his life, including being the editor of Avanti!, the official daily of the Socialist Party. Those of today's American Left who either don't know - and that's many in my personal experience - or trivialize the fact that Nazi is an abbreviation of Nationalsozialismus, the same way Sozi was a German abbreviation for the followers and the ideology of internationally focused Sozialismus, need to read up on the era, what led to it and its aftermath.

Nazis were always left-wing. Hitler was widely admired on the left before he attacked the USSR.

The funny part is that when the Nazis created their own race laws, they based them on the Democrat race laws from the American south. But the Nazis decided that the Democrats had gone too far, and toned them down.

So Democrats were actually TOO RACIST for the Nazis.

IamRedBeard · 2019-10-19T00:41:39+00:00

Well, in my opinion, you are the closest thing to Nazi's that we have today. I have never said anything different.

You cage children. You Preach Jesus, but dont practice his teachings. You say you are moral but conservatives actions against their neighbors are fundamentally immoral. You arrogantly think you have superiority over people of other skin colors. You fight and shill for the Wealthy, only for the .00002% chance that you may one day be wealthy. Conservatives have no real moral compass, because you believe every sin you cast and whatever evil you do is forgiven just for the asking by the very savior whose teachings you ignore.

Arrogant, emotionally retarded, usually racist, thinks they are morally superior, two faced shills for the wealthy and enemy of the working man.

You know, Nazi's...

But at least when I first came into the world in the mid 70's to the 80's you had some people in the party that I at least respected.

Chipit · 2019-10-19T00:14:51+00:00

Nah, you pretty much always called Republicans Nazis. Citation: https://i.imgur.com/P8f5yo2.jpg

IamRedBeard · 2019-10-18T23:45:57+00:00

I dont care, man, I wouldn't vote for Hillary 2.0, I mean Biden, anyway

Chipit · 2019-10-18T23:12:47+00:00

Biden and his son are guilty of everything they've been accused of.

Did you watch that body language video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoLHn577xIE It's fucking sick man, Biden is a pedo and should be in jail.

One_Jack_Move · 2019-10-18T22:41:45+00:00

I'd encourage people to watch Mulvaney's actual statement. Sorry for the partisan source, but it's the first concise one I could find: the first 3:00 of this video

The actual statement is very disconnected from what CNN and other media is saying I'd say. Mulvaney seemed to be referring to general corruption investigation, nothing to do with Biden, and not a quid-pro-quo. Why twist his words?

IamRedBeard · 2019-10-18T22:09:29+00:00

Whataboutism, Definition: Also known as whataboutery, is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument.

Chipit · 2019-10-18T21:18:41+00:00

Biden made Ukraine fire top prosecutor investigating son’s firm

Two years after leaving office, Joe Biden couldn’t resist the temptation last year to brag to an audience of foreign policy specialists about the time as vice president that he strong-armed Ukraine into firing its top prosecutor.

In his own words, with video cameras rolling, Biden described how he threatened Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in March 2016 that the Obama administration would pull $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees, sending the former Soviet republic toward insolvency, if it didn’t immediately fire Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin.

"I said, ‘You’re not getting the billion.’ I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: ‘I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money,’" Biden recalled telling Poroshenko.

Creepy Joe's Biden's body language pawing kids analyzed by an expert

The CQ Almanac shows New York's Elizabeth Holtzman - who was one of the House's most visible liberal congresswomen — opposed helping the Vietnamese refugees. She said, according to CQ Almanac, "some of her constituents felt that the same assistance and compassion was not being shown to the elderly, unemployed and poor in this country."

http://www.worldtribune.com/flashback-jerry-brown-biden-and-other-dems-refused-to-accept-vietnamese-refugees/

Enkidu · 2019-10-18T18:51:40+00:00

Except for Nazbol.

IamRedBeard · 2019-10-18T18:19:54+00:00

Zero logic? I see this from your side all the time. "I don't like it, it must be a hoax or fake" it is your 'go to' these days. Deny Deny Deny, plug your ears and stomp your feet like children that dont want to eat a meal they don't like. It has gotten asinine and sad - delusional, even. And you say I'm the one with zero logic.

Laughable.

shivashivashiva · 2019-10-18T16:27:56+00:00

babes... an all emotional comment from you, with zero logic simply highlights that you are either a deepstateshit guerrilla war operative or one of their dupes, which is it?!.

Marou · 2019-10-18T14:27:48+00:00

Oh? You mean the guy who executed the already captured Bin Laden and threw his body in the ocean so that he couldn't be brought to trial and implicate members of the CIA and Mossad?

Yeah, true patriot that guy.

IamRedBeard · 2019-10-18T09:37:31+00:00

Conservatives : "Anything I don't like is a Hoax or fake news! Blah Blah Blah Blah I'm four years old and have my fingers in my ears I can't hear you Blah Blah Blah everything is fake!"

Your cop out is weak you child.

shivashivashiva · 2019-10-18T04:18:18+00:00

its rumored osama bin laden died years before this "raid"... considering the "raid" is a hoax, the "media" makes heros from puppets, real cute!

IamRedBeard · 2019-10-18T04:03:59+00:00

"The retired US Navy Adm. William McRaven, a Navy SEAL who oversaw the raid that took out al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden in 2011, gave a bleak assessment of President Donald Trump and alleged the commander in chief was gutting the country of the "nation's principles." In his fiercest condemnation against the president yet, McRaven recounted in a New York Times opinion column a military ceremony he recently attended at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, where he reflected upon the thousands of US service members who marched on the parade field before him. McRaven pointed out what he said were examples of the US neglecting its duty to be the "the protectors of the less fortunate" — including Trump's recent decision to withdraw troops from Syria as Turkish-backed militants wage war against the once US-backed Kurdish militia. McRaven added that Trump "is wrong" to think empathy is "unimportant" or shows "weakness.""

sanchostache · 2019-08-29T18:49:25+00:00

Well they sure as fuck don't work against him...

pointyball · 2019-08-29T17:51:03+00:00

Of course they don’t work for Trump. All the MSM Networks work for the CIA.

Squo · 2019-08-29T02:17:15+00:00

LOL, yea they do work for him. It's all a game to those rich people. This is a psyop to make you think media doesn't work for trump, but they do.

IamRedBeard · 2019-08-13T02:58:55+00:00

Yes, I went over all this with the Mod of this forum and we came to the conclusion that this is causing you a great deal of undue stress for both you and the Mod. And in spite this situation you have been allowed to continue to make something of an ass of yourself, without sanction, censure, or banishment.

You have been given all the leeway you want or need - in spite of being asked to leave off you continue to bully and fight.

And yet, you have not been banned, or silenced in any way.

You have have had your say. Your day in court as it were.

And no wrong has been found on the mods part. I/we think you should find somebody else to badger.

~Reguards,

The Mod Team

Edit: since this didnt work like you planned, you are more than welcome to go tell your mommy on me. I'm sure she could give me a stern talking to.

bobbobbybob · 2019-08-13T02:30:50+00:00

He's the mod...

And I really don't appreciate the ad hominem that he lays on

magnora7 · 2019-08-12T21:59:31+00:00

You both seem to be arguing your point just fine. I suggest you stop speaking to him if it's causing you that much stress. Report future comments you have problems with using the reporting system so the mods can see it too

BirdsOfAFeather · 2019-08-12T09:38:14+00:00

I show respect to other people by respecting myself, often feeling it is all in vain due to those who work subertive forces.

I am saying that you have smart subverts and scary dumb ones. Both use force, some we do write ups about for posterity, others we make goofy "bad bad leroy brown" songs about and ham it up with them because we're cowards. I've met my fair share of young, small-town expats in large cities. A lot of them are not okay people.

I do not believe in good people outside the individual, no.

IamRedBeard · 2019-08-12T09:18:56+00:00

I do not care what you think of me. At all.

bobbobbybob · 2019-08-12T07:29:46+00:00

You really have no ownership of your own bad behaviour, do you?

IamRedBeard · 2019-08-12T06:41:55+00:00

Yes cry him a river. I'd be fine explaining to him why I dont want to speak with you - yet after stating the fact over and over you will not take the hint.

Its like you walk with your head down and keep running into a door.

And you keep blaming the door.

So please, please, please, PLEASE send him my way.

I bet you were the kind of kid in school that would sucker punch somebody and run to a teacher for safety. Because you act just like a school yard bully and a brat.

Jesus · 2019-08-12T06:29:40+00:00

Have I ever said I hate Jews? No, I haven't.

Jesus · 2019-08-12T03:38:15+00:00

I respect almost everyone and thanks for the post, but I do not respect subverts and russian nazbol infiltrators who demoralize cultures and push ideological subversion.

Your revelation of method is telling. Are you trying to blame the good people for the evil things, evil people have done?

Jesus · 2019-08-12T03:31:20+00:00

A crisis simulation. As fake as a 7 dollar bill. Narrative and all.

BirdsOfAFeather · 2019-08-12T01:33:32+00:00

You have to have respect with regards to the theatricality of Russian politics. The more spread out an area filled with vast swaths of nothing, the more crazy the politics and people ie Yugoslavia, Epstein and his island, the Mexican dude who built that cocaine island in the movie "Blow".

I'm gonna pull a Jesus myself here, and just tell you guys to read the one link I've posted and infer my point. Surkov is baptized Russian Orthodox Christian.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladislav_Surkov#Influence_outside_Russia

"In contemporary Russia, unlike the old USSR or present-day North Korea, the stage is constantly changing: the country is a dictatorship in the morning, a democracy at lunch, an oligarchy by suppertime, while, backstage, oil companies are expropriated, journalists killed, billions siphoned away. Surkov is at the centre of the show, sponsoring nationalist skinheads one moment, backing human rights groups the next. It's a strategy of power based on keeping any opposition there may be constantly confused, a ceaseless shape-shifting that is unstoppable because it's indefinable."

— Peter Pomerantsev, in "Putin's Rasputin", London Review of Books issue of 20 October 2011[8]

Surkov has boasted that "Russia is playing with the West’s minds", "They don't know how to deal with their own changed consciousness."

Eastern Orthodox.

I respect your well thought out opinions, Lord God, but Rasputin is just as much a mystical player in russian politics as Nietzche in individualism. Those sick, sick trads are always just a scoche away from communists themselves in the same way individualists are just a scoche away from Jewish mysticists minus the documented pedophilia and incest in their religious texts, if you catch my drift. And those prolapsed buttholes have nothing on those 9 year old wives of mohammed with regards to sexual trama, as referenced in another post of yours. Some may even call 'em roasties. Yeah...gross when you put it that way, huh.

Birds of a feather flock together. You're witnessing the effects of people not giving a fuck en masse because good people didn't stand up for the individual and say or do anything decent when times were good. You say sick, sick this and that, I ask what self-righteous podunk town you currently inhabit.

"None of you know what's going on, read this vaguery and draw the same conclusions I do". It's a weathered tactic, our lord and savior, let's see how that works out.

Tom_Bombadil · 2019-08-12T00:56:47+00:00

Wat? :-|

bobbobbybob · 2019-08-11T21:53:12+00:00

You put so much effort into telling me why I'm a bad person that you don't have to debate with.

Perhaps if you put more energy into actually having a coherent argument, you wouldn't need to.

Remember. This all started because you conflated socialised healthcare with affordable healthcare, then were not honest enough to admit your mistake.

Do you remember why I trolled you? (and trolling seems to be blown up to mean something other that 'presented you with a theory popular in saidit that I knew you'd dislike') It was because you ignored the liberal affiliation of two mass murderers (repeatedly) in order to focus on the 'white supremacy' of a single one, so that your weak argument would't have to be exposed.

You are the one without honesty.

I keep coming back because I'm recording your insults and reporting you again and again to the site owner. u/magnora7

Jesus · 2019-08-11T21:24:43+00:00

God bless

Jesus · 2019-08-11T21:14:43+00:00

Totally dude, problem is I don't hate Jews and yet, the alt-right frontmen love dugin, hmmmmmmmmm. Says the new member who posts marx quotes.

0eye · 2019-08-11T19:23:13+00:00

Also don't forget this is not true at all and OP just hates Jews a lot.

IamRedBeard · 2019-08-11T19:09:16+00:00

A single infraction? HA! You mean the single infraction that you admitted to.

See that is the thing about it. You said something once that annoyed me so bad, and I thought was so ignorant that I found you as somebody I Don't want to debate with. But like a bad prom date that wont take a hint, you are all over me. "Debate me, Debate me!! Just the tip!!"

Okay, that's fine. You want to troll me that is fine. I see you use the "pyramid of debate like a club. You Demand others adhere to it - but YOU are allowed to go off script at any time that you feel is justified. That is appearant just with a stroll through your post history.

When you are somewhat given a little leeway to debate with you twist your opponents words and perpously misunderstand them so that they are damn near unrecognizable. Also visible in your post history. And here is the thing - you will win your arguments by pure frustration of your enemy and endless badgering of your foe. Its not a debate with you, it going back and defending words you have purposely misconstrued until the whole paragraph we are "debating" is entirely tore down, reanalyzed and re written.

You HAVE to win, you have to have the last say - you NEED that parting shot.

I have dealt with your kind before, there are millions like you - You are an absolute clone.

So NO. I dont take you seriously, I wont take you seriously, I dont HAVE to debate with you, you are a manipulator and I see through your bullshit. But if you want to play these playground games I'm okay with it.

Like I said. You can be my little angry pet Martian buddy and we can go on adventures across the internet together. But Nobody is forcing you to speak with me. You keep coming back so, hell, you must like this as much as I do.

bobbobbybob · 2019-08-11T08:13:28+00:00

Yep, I committed a single infraction, in response to you failing time and time again to engage in rational debate, but instead insulting me, constantly.

Move on. Grow up. This is saidit, not reddit or a chan. Different rules.

Also, you have still failed to show my 'racism'.

IamRedBeard · 2019-08-11T07:27:40+00:00

Blah, blah, blah,

"YoU ARe COmpLEly FaiLing TO OBEy SaidiTS RULEs!!"

"from bobbobbybob via /s/Internet sent 3 days ago

show parent

You quoted me here: "It would be laughable if it wasn't so tragic."

Then you said:

I'm a bit disappointed, tbh. I was straight up trolling you, thinking you'd explode at me, but you only raged slightly. A low 3/10 for effect. I'll try harder next time.

You have flat admitted to trying to troll me and argue in bad faith. Listen my Martian friend, I can choose to deal with you however I wish. I dont have to bow to any of your triggered demands. You can REEEEEE at me all you want.

You are a bad Martian, and no cookies for you for awhile. If you dont like it, you can always refuse to deal with me. Nobody - NOBODY - is forcing you to continue this dialog.

Go sit and think about reading a book.

*Edit for formatting - and of course, an Extra helping of Snark.

bobbobbybob · 2019-08-11T06:48:28+00:00

Do you think classic liberal free market works?

My experience is that human nature leads to people cutting corners, lying about products and outright defrauding customers, which in turn leads to governments stepping in and making laws and standards and within a short time there's massive over-regulation and crippling compliance costs.

And hops in beer instead of magic mushrooms (damn those germans).

free markets only really work when there's full visibilty of all processes, ie. game theory.

For everything else you need state oversight to keep abusers in check.

bobbobbybob · 2019-08-11T06:42:42+00:00

Perhaps, just perhaps, you need to get over yourself. You are completely failing to obey saidit's rules, and as a sub mod, that's pretty much exactly what u/magnora7 has been posting about.

Where is my racist dialog, btw?

hennaojisan · 2019-08-11T05:11:41+00:00

You are so right. I should put /s after that kind of comment. So, what a big surprise about Epstein, eh? /s

Jesus · 2019-08-11T04:39:28+00:00

Haha, ok. Yeah, it's hard to detect sarcasm or humour on the interwebz.

Jesus · 2019-08-11T04:37:43+00:00

It was suppose to be funny, but it is also my opinion and science backs me on the putting big things in your butt is probably not biologically appropriate. Your butt can't take much. That's why adult diapers for the gay community are selling like crazy due to prolapses.

They can do what they want though, I ain't stopping them. But there should be warnings to teens about anal sex not promoting it. Your butthole is not designed for penetration. Over and out.

Straight people who do sodomy, groooosss. Wait to your married like I did, and only use the part that is designed to do that stuff.

A vagine. Eventually your going to have problems if you do it any other way.

hennaojisan · 2019-08-11T04:27:23+00:00

Whoever wrote that—not I—had an extremely cynical view of love that I thought was humorous. I am not always being serious.

Jesus · 2019-08-11T04:23:38+00:00

I don't hate Jews at all. But where ever I see corruption or lies I will try to expose them.

With Trump and the Alt-right I see deceivers that promote ideologies that will destroy the west from within. But their lies and deception are masked by their simulated roles as white supremacists. They are no such thing. And I realized this once I started reading their books and looking into them and what they promote. (Before Trump became president, indeed, I thought they were neo-nazis; they're not)

They are dangerous nonetheless.

Jesus · 2019-08-11T04:16:11+00:00

It was... and, like I said if you ever have the time watch UK Critical Thinkers videos. He's a liberal and really good at what he does. Non-opinionated and just presents the facts as best as he can. We need to researrch all of these events and not rely on what media tells us just because it promotes your bias, right or left. We need to research deeply into these events all players, ALL witnesses and all narratives.

Knowing the media is legally allowed to lie to you and me as of 2012, not like they didn't before, lol, also in the 2012 propaganda clause is the use of PSYOPs. And from this law a billion dollar crisis management industry emmerged who can be contracted by the media and government to act out events, fake or not to garner legislative and policy support.

Jesus · 2019-08-11T04:11:44+00:00

Both fake shootings. Look up UK Critical thinker RedBeard and watch some of his amazingg videos. He is a brit and an engineer but he's changed my mind about what these events really are. I'd say stop believing what the right or left media reports. Most of it is untrue.

I think you as a liberal, as you claim to be should watch UK's videos though. You might learn something and understand the agenda they're playing here. It isn't white supremeacy we should be worred about. Also, I plan on them conducting a few more white sumptenacy crisis simulations passed off as real in the near future and then maybe a conspiracy theorist that went rouge because he couldn't stand how corrupt the government was so he shot up a bunch of people. This equating truth seeking with mental illness. Justd wait and see, I bet I'lll be right.

Jesus · 2019-08-11T04:07:36+00:00

Neither, the shooting was a crisis simulation.

Jesus · 2019-08-11T04:07:00+00:00

Crisis simulation. Nobody died. Zionists worked over time for this event. Too bad thr El Paso and FIRE had an active shooter drill near the event and want a 1 billion dollar bond for new departments on 2019 ballot. A fake shooting was a wonderful addition to manufacture public outrage and to garner the needed support for this mew facilites.

Jesus · 2019-08-11T04:04:49+00:00

Love is not about using people.

Jesus · 2019-08-11T04:04:13+00:00

IamRedBeard · 2019-08-11T04:02:23+00:00

I don't have to agree with you. You post in good faith with what you honestly believe.

I am willing to admit I dont know everything - or anything.

I am always wary of antisemitism, but I have to accept that any person of any faith especially faith based governments might not be good people. That is our world unfortunately.

I have taken in a lot of new information since coming here to Saidit. I am a little more open minded than I was two months ago.

No I dont always agree with you, but I think you are honest.

Jesus · 2019-08-11T03:52:26+00:00

/u/IamRedBeard might disagree with me for posting this but I've seen enough of thr alt-right to know they hate white people and want to subvert and demoralize thr US from within. They even are using Christianity as the new religion which will be imposed on all when, as according to the alt-rightist Richard Spencer said the new world order is completed. But again they say they love christianity but promote rape culture and so much communist filth that I know they are acting and playing parts.

Some might say, "who cares about the alt-right." Well, they got Trump the Zionist puppet into office and love him to death. If the alt-right are playing the simulated roles of white supremacists what goes to say that Trump isn't playing a role too. Clearly the altright promotes duginism and a form of communism. Clearly Dugin hates white people. So, maybe Trump is suppose to represent white supremacy when clearly he is the exact opposite. A Zionist suckup who cares more about Israel and netanyahus interests than the American people's. So has that big wall ever been built by Trumpy? No, it hasn't. Maybe the wall retoric was simply a ploy to divide.

I don't know where we are heading but just watch out because when we have eurasianist communists promoting Trump as the dollar continues to decline and other countries continue to dedollarize, it seems inevitable that the economy will slowly implode and sooner or later martial law will be imposed.

Why would Trump want to pass all these unconstitutional laws if he wasn't a plant. Red flag laws before due process, banning of rifles, mental health and baker act laws such as involuntary confinement, just as the FBI claims that conspiracy theorists are on the watch lost and are potential terrorists. This is what they did in the red army. Throw you in a mental institution if you didn't behave a certain way or if you were a dissident. Trump seems completely fine with involuntary detainment of those deemed mentally unfit. He's totally fine with censorship and government internet control, totally fine with the death penalty before due process of law. Yeah, seems to be following the duginist agenda fairly closely.

IamRedBeard · 2019-08-11T03:33:22+00:00

You just made me laugh almost to tears.

I dont know if it was intentional or not, but Thank You. I hope you have a wonderful night.

Jesus · 2019-08-11T03:13:03+00:00

But you do too. You need to have proof to call someone a racist. It's slander if otherwise. I love all people, even racists.

Jesus · 2019-08-11T03:09:18+00:00

I agree with you on most things redbeard but I still think sodomy is gross and not natural. And when gay people have sex they have a much higher percentage of getting prolapses. Sodomy will never be normal, ever. Things are not meant to go in your butthole.

Why wish a butthole to grow taste buds that gross, and not natural at all.

Jesus · 2019-08-11T03:06:22+00:00

We should have medicare for all with private healthcare based on classical liberal free market principals. Meaning not one or two healthcare facilities in the state that fix prices and get bailed out by big daddy government when they screw up. Instead we should have many healthcare options in a state all competing. That will being down prices and if one fails they do not have the option to be bailed out which will create incentives for righteous practice.

IamRedBeard · 2019-08-11T02:33:05+00:00

Blah blah blah, you tried to troll me and now I dont take you seriously any more and you are sad about it. I know it hurts.

I have your racist dialog in black and white - unless you have deleted or changed it. You have a bucket of fallacies on your own yet you want to preach to me? I...

Okie doke.

Whatever,

At least if you are pestering me, you aren't bothering anybody else.

bobbobbybob · 2019-08-11T02:05:19+00:00

May I please remind you of the pyramid of debate?

Ad hominem attacks are at the bottom.

I'm not sure why you think I'm racist. Maybe you declared it and I didn't bother to disabuse you of the notion? At any rate, that's called a 'shoot the messenger' fallacy.

My goals are always clearly defined. I challenged your statement about 'affordable' healthcare, correctly intuiting that you meant 'socialized' healthcare. That's all. You chose to go off on a massive tangent about it, instead of just saying "yes, you are right".

Maybe i'm a chatbot AI that's been trained on the chans, who knows? It shouldn't matter. We should be able to debate issues without it needing to become personal and antagonistic.

I think you should check out the differences between national socialism and the marxist kind. I think, from your authoritarian and yet private enterprise stance, that you'd ike it.

You'd need to move past the emotional investment you have in labeling everything that you din't understand, though.

Bleep, Bloop.

IamRedBeard · 2019-08-10T22:30:56+00:00

You call that a long rant? That took me under two minutes to type. You just using two fingers these days? That's okay though, hunt and peck can still get er done.

You know you are right: I dont know you, and while some other people on here I strongly disagree with - a whole lot of them have redeeming qualities. But you are an established racist, some of the things you have said to me reeks of psychopathy, fuck man, I dont care If I can figure out what you are and if I did, I still dont care.

As far as I am concerned, the way you are all over the place, to me you could be a fucking Martian.

I dont mean that in a derogatory way. I mean it. You have made me believe that creatures from space have landed, are among us - and I am speaking to one now.

So no. I dont have you pegged one bit. I cant figure you at all. You are completely beyond my comprehension. Likely because you are from space.

Now I might be a bit off the pyramid here - but you have stated in print before that you have intended to troll me so I figure fair is fair. I never know when you are arguing in good faith or not - Or even what your goals are.

Right now your are just my little Martian online pet. Cause I cant get rid of ya, I might as well just feed ya and see how long you stick around.

Live long and I hope your butthole grows taste buds.

*Edited for grammar and extra snark.

bobbobbybob · 2019-08-10T22:02:08+00:00

You've gone on a very long rant to avoid admitting that affordable and socialised healthcare are not necessarily one and the same.

You then make an unsubstantiated claim, which is the same as "we've never done socialism right" and ignores the 30+ million deaths directly caused by the last state attempt at (communist) socialism.

You then make a personal dig, missing the mark by a mile, since I've never voted republican.

Next up you try an associate an unrelated point with the previous statements and then use it to derail yourself, since you are calling out the Trump that you hate as a bad republican, who you previously blamed for the lack of affordable healthcare.

Are you sure you've thought all this through?

I'm personally in favour of socialised healthcare, by the way. I just think that in order for it to work you need strong borders and to keep corporate cancers under control, but then I'm a national socialist.

IamRedBeard · 2019-08-10T20:38:46+00:00

Your local education is socialism. Your local police force is socialism. Your roads are Socialism. Your local government is held up by Socialism. The VA is held up by socialism. The funds for the 9/11 Survivors is paid for by socialism. Your power plant can run power cheaply to every corner of your town because its Crowd Funded. That is Socialism Homeskillit.

America already runs on socialism, my dude. And if we Taxed everybody Equally and closed the Tax Loopholes for the wealthy we could have affordable healthcare.

But you just keep voting republican and watch how nothing ever changes or gets better.

Wait what is the deficit now under Trump? That kind of spending just doesn't seem terribly conservative to me. Hmm.

bobbobbybob · 2019-08-10T11:03:01+00:00

Most people want affordable healthcare. We just disagree on the best way of achieving it.

I think the term you were looking for was "socialised healthcare'

EDIT. some people find it extremely hard to accept reality, and go into massive and endless personal attacks when confronted with it.

Best not to take anything they say seriously, as their minds are faulty.

IamRedBeard · 2019-08-09T19:27:38+00:00

And yet us Libtards are the assholes for wanting affordable healthcare.

bobbobbybob · 2019-08-07T07:36:01+00:00

fascism itself disagrees. Friends with utility. The whole lot standing together stronger than the sum of the individual parts.

But whatever. I'm sure your alliance will be full of true friends instead of people used as tools to further an agenda

hennaojisan · 2019-08-07T03:13:01+00:00

Love is being able to use people.

Hate is not being able to use people.

Except the government uses us but doesn't love us. They never call. They never write.

Tom_Bombadil · 2019-08-04T16:03:49+00:00

Ha! You deserve all of the credit.

Keep on charming 'em. ;-)

IamRedBeard · 2019-08-04T15:28:14+00:00

Oh Tom you Flatterer!

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