"Megacities on the Move - Planned-opolis" - Creepy AGENDA 21 Utopia Promotion

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[–]ANIKAHirsch 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

So creepy and unsettling..

Yet I was shown stuff just like this in university level architecture classes. We were being taught that "bubble cites" were the way of the future.. Of course they would have to be fully automated "smart" and "on-grid", no gas cars, vertical farms, and all the rest.. Back then I wasn't as awake to the propaganda as I am now. But even then I knew that top-down prescription of the future was not the way forward..

I'm literally rolling my eyes at the wife undermining her husband's job, saying he plays video games, and telling the kid "no meat it's not your birthday".. Just gratuitous nonsense.

This stuff is so unsustainable it should be obvious to everyone. True sustainability is self-sufficiency. I would rather empower the public, giving them the means to produce their own electricity, grow their own food, process and recycle their own waste and refuse, on their own land.

Produce what you use, and use what you produce. It's common sense. Technology would make it so easy for individuals to manage these things for their families. Owning the technology grants individuals the opportunity to understand it, build on it, and the information to revise and improvise it.

For some reason, my professors never liked it when I brought up those kind of solutions...

Automating everything disenfranchises the public. The overbearing systems will become so opaque that no one will be able to comprehend or manage them, then they will fail.

In conclusion, postmodernism is a cancerous infection. This "planned-opolis" will never exist. It's just another utopian vision that cannot account for human nature and individual will.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

True sustainability is self-sufficiency.

And bottom up community with open transparency.

Part of the problem is that we're all so impermanent and mobile. We all have the freedom to move/upgrade/downgrade across town or across the country - without ties and responsibilities to the land or communities. How can we keep the freedom and keep people responsible?

It's a planned prison within city-limits.

[–]ANIKAHirsch 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Yes, you are so right.

I think part of the obstacle to true self-sufficiency is the upfront cost. Just try to imagine what it would cost to set up a totally sustainable farm, even if you're just feeding your family. You would probably have to be a millionaire!

But, families who have obtained any level of self-sufficiency possess more real wealth than anyone living inside the city, even if they "own" their condo..

When our systems fail, only those who are self-sufficient will survive. Those who depend on the city infrastructure will be forced to evacuate or perish. What do they have then?

I don't think I'm really answering your question.. so I'll try.

I think we need a society-wide shift of values. How can we teach people to value real wealth and sustainability, and to want those things for their family?

Unfortunately, I don't believe that will happen outside of the circumstances I described.

Being able to pick up and move across the country is a privilege, for sure. But true freedom is independence. Independence is securing a future for yourself through your own hard work and competence, extricating yourself from a doomed system, and relying on no one beside yourself.

See.. what I imagine is more of an architectural solution..

I think our city infrastructures are weaker for having a single electric grid. I think they are weaker for having one underground pipe system. I think they are weaker for having one water treatment center. I think they are weaker for having two large farms outside city limits, which feed everyone. I think they are weaker for having separate zoned areas for "residential", "commercial", and "industrial" buildings.

We've been building cities and buildings the same way for a long time. In some cases, it was done out of necessity. Many technologies, before they are perfected, end up being unreasonably large.. Some things are too expensive to be owned or built by individuals. But technology has come a long way..

I want every building to have electric generators. I want every building to have, if not a well, rain collection. I want every building to have a closed sewage system. I want every building and home to have hydroponic green-rooms. I want everyone to own a 3D printer to make small parts and tools. (I want patents and designs to be open-source.) I want opening a store to be as easy as opening your front door.. it's unreasonable that we force business owners purchase a second property. I want every building to provide what every individual could need, or the capital to produce it.

When there is a new theory of architecture.. then people will think of architecture differently. When you think about it.. why don't we demand such capabilities of our buildings even now?

So, we should rebuild our cities after they've been razed. But we shouldn't build them back the same way, or we invite the same weaknesses. If every building was self-sufficient, then centralized infrastructure would be a boon, rather than a dependency.

By doing this, we put real wealth back into the hands of the citizenry. Becoming self-sufficient should be as easy as buying a house..

At least, that's what I think.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Indeed. The upfront cost is a challenge. I'm trying to convert my basement into a year-round garden. I'll be documenting it eventually on /s/microgrowery.

I agree. People who "own" their condo are still slaves of the system and still must pay taxes (rent) on their life and stuff. Unfortunately even self-sufficient people have to defend their stuff (like anyone) if "they" come for you or your stuff.

I also agree on your other ideas. Independence is freedom, yes, but that also means you have the freedom to improve your situation, as you should, and have the potential to uproot everything to move to a better place/opportunity/plot of land. Any responsible person would be taking care of their land, even up to the moment they leave it forever. Unfortunately, too many consider the land they are on as temporary and disposable, and may potentially disrespect it or even pollute it - especially if it costs too much, say for example, to take a load to the proper dump. Another example: sell out to a corporation to pollute it and then leave. I know first hand of these 2 cases happening in Muskoka (my grandparents built a large log home there).

Decentralize all the things!!! Open-source all the tools!!! All that you said and I want every home to have a server, just like any other appliance. Fuck the corporate clouds. Also, MOAR aquaponics! Yes, opening stores should be easier. In Canada we have more red-tape per capita than anywhere else on Earth - so they can control/tax us. Also live-work places are the best!!! After doing it in Oakland I've tried to bring it to Vancouver BC, Muskoka, and now Windsor, Ontario - with no signs of success - yet.

I like /s/Architecture, love Earthships and tensegrity, and I overhauled this page a couple years ago: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hyperboloid_structures.

It's more than ironic that our semi-disposable automobiles are more tricked out and efficient than our homes - and while I'm against big brother surveillance there's no reason why we can't automate and monitor our own domains.

What you think is terrific for humanity and Earth - but not for the ruling class' agenda to enslave us all.

[–]ANIKAHirsch 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for the links. That wikipedia page is actually so cool!