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[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

it would've been ridiculously difficult to fake the live footage that we saw

True (impossible live) for the closer RECORDED shots (but could have been faked with time). Completely opposite (easy for a pro-team with proper setup) for the distant LIVE shots.

You remember very wrong. I've never changed my stance on this. IMO it IS technically possible that there were no planes and the video was faked - but I really really doubt it with so many eye witnesses, no convincing obvious giveaways in the video, etc. Special effects have a tendency to be amazing in the moment but often age poorly - that's a HUUUUGE risk, even among pros. So far the 9/11 footage holds up. The moon landing photos and footage do not.

The trajectory of the "plane" matches up completely between all the footage.

This is simple. Use a single animation setup with several cameras matched to their angle and optics. You'll never have a fuckup, ever. If the plane doesn't show up in frame due to the perspective angle, that's too bad, the physics must not lie, even if you want a "beautiful shot" or as a hoaxer-documentarian you'd be setting yourself up for failure when people analyze your work. Which leads us to another point...

(((They))) don't give a fuck. They lie and get caught all the time. They don't care. If it was faked and they got caught they would not care at all. So, back to the original premise: they would not be taking all the effort that I know it would take to get it so perfectly nailed down to reality, physics, flight paths, etc. They don't care. This professional animation team, their gear, the connections to the LIVE feeds, etc - might cost less than a couple airplanes, but you'd have to keep the secret, be 1,000,000% certain your CGI doesn't fuck up when live, etc. Not worth the risk, time, effort, etc. Just blow up the fuckers with a plane/drone and advance your military's real-world experience.

I also have doubts about the idea of a group of people employed by news corporations who are in on it and would come together to produce fake live footage.

They do that on the regular. Wag The Dog. But when you have so many, and animators too, it gets excessive - especially with the alleged 3k deaths and the start of the Global War Of Terror.

her being institutionalized is suspicious.

TIL about that after-event-story. I'd like to see more on that, but don't have time to research or read now. Further, if that story is out there, I wonder if it's even true. They could have 1) locked her up because she's crazy or might talk, 2) killed her and said she's locked up, or 3) said she's locked up but maybe she's just living a quiet life or even gotten plastic surgery to live another life.

my impression

Sound, rational, and agreed.

[–]LarrySwinger2[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

TIL about that after-event-story. I'd like to see more on that, but don't have time to research or read now. Further, if that story is out there, I wonder if it's even true. They could have 1) locked her up because she's crazy or might talk, 2) killed her and said she's locked up, or 3) said she's locked up but maybe she's just living a quiet life or even gotten plastic surgery to live another life.

And neither do I have the time to find my sources and you know why. ;) I think she was only locked up temporarily, by the way. I remember it as a few weeks, but of course I may remember wrong.