Saudis Directly Tied to 9/11: Declassified Documents by Drewski in 911truth

[–]iamonlyoneman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Horseshit. tl;dr:

The 'proof' is that a guy was a saudi spy who met some terrorists. How hard do you think it is for a radical islamist to meet terrorists? It's like meeting a white man in Vider, Texas.

The other 'proof' is he had a sketch of a plane and some maths . . . oh and he worked for the civil aviation authority no reason for them to do math about planes.

r/conspiracy will eat it up, but it's not even weak tea it's just water.

Saudis Directly Tied to 9/11: Declassified Documents by Drewski in 911truth

[–]Rob3122 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Must've been the Saudis who notified the thousands of jews to not go to work on 9/11...

Saudis Directly Tied to 9/11: Declassified Documents by Drewski in 911truth

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Second towers strike 9/11 with airplane in clear view by zyxzevn in 911truth

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That is wild:

The Twin Towers Were Giant DNA Markers! The Spiritual Warfare of 9/11 Now Uncovered by thelight in 911truth

[–]IkeConn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This has to be one of the most wacko 911 conspiracy theories I have ever heard.

What Can a CDI Explosives Loader Teach Us About the Collapse of WTC 7? by zyxzevn in 911truth

[–]IkeConn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

People love clinging to conspiracy theories. I wish for ther sake just one big conspiracy theory would be brought out and exposed as the truth for once.

Nein Elven Fairy Planes by LarrySwinger2 in 911truth

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's not that clear cut. I have not read the book and it's been a while since I watched the doc.

Also worth checking out is Webster Tarpley on the history, middle ages onward, and anything but modern 21st century politics where he's mostly useless. Perhaps all of his work is poor, but the historical stuff seems insightful, plausible, and fills in holes to make sense in the long run.

Nein Elven Fairy Planes by LarrySwinger2 in 911truth

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I didn't think that was saying jews controlled christianity, but romans did?

Nein Elven Fairy Planes by LarrySwinger2 in 911truth

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Nein Elven Fairy Planes by LarrySwinger2 in 911truth

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how about this theory, jews have controlled the muslim religion since the start.

Nein Elven Fairy Planes by LarrySwinger2 in 911truth

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I don't know how many videos were taken and how many bodies were found on the ground. Were they identified?

I don't know but I would hope all jumpers were identified, and by their clothing you'd know who it was on the ground. Very little blood, but the impact made fissures I hadn't expected. Worth looking at a few images to get the idea if you're not squeamish.

I based that idea on the art-project that happened a year before the false-flag event on 9/11. The Israeli art students were hanging people on wires outside the building. And making it seem as if they jumped out of the removed window. The ropes were made invisible, and there were photographs taken from the floor level.

I knew about the art project, but I never did see the end result.

They use exactly like those published during 9/11. So I wonder if they could be the same photographs?

It wouldn't surprise me if the MSM intentionally mixed them up, used them to incite hysteria, or whatever. Perhaps the images were for backup in case folks didn't get clean shots. I can only speculate on the reasons, if there actually was a connection and purpose. It may also be a distraction.

The CIA has 2 prime goals: collect power and have plausible deniability. Everything that reaches MSM has a built in aspect of the ruling class just being bumbling idiots. This is not by accident.

Was it predictive programming? Or were some or many of these on 9/11 faked?

I'd be interested to know, but not enough to do the leg work. Plus I'm okay but not a great researcher. This would need someone great.

As you state, it gives "disturbing results", which was the goal of 9/11.

Yes, both the falling people and the lesser seen impacted bodies, though I was referring more to the latter.

Nein Elven Fairy Planes by LarrySwinger2 in 911truth

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I don't know how many videos were taken and how many bodies were found on the ground. Were they identified?

I based that idea on the art-project that happened a year before the false-flag event on 9/11.

The Israeli art students were hanging people on wires outside the building.
And making it seem as if they jumped out of the removed window.
The ropes were made invisible, and there were photographs taken from the floor level.

They use exactly like those published during 9/11.
So I wonder if they could be the same photographs?

Was it predictive programming? Or were some or many of these on 9/11 faked?

As you state, it gives "disturbing results", which was the goal of 9/11.

Nein Elven Fairy Planes by LarrySwinger2 in 911truth

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I do think that some photographs were faked of people jumping out of the building.

How so? Why?

There are a lot of videos and images of the jumpers, and of their bodies on the ground - before the towers fell. Disturbing results.

Nein Elven Fairy Planes by LarrySwinger2 in 911truth

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The Zionists organized it, including the Zionist Muslims.

Nein Elven Fairy Planes by LarrySwinger2 in 911truth

[–]humancorpse 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

how many people were on the ground watching this event unfold? yeah.

and now the muslims that pulled off this caper are determined to blame it on jewish people.

absolutely amazing.

REVEALED: New 9/11 Docs SHOW US Plot To COVER UP Saudi Connection (9:50) ~ Breaking Points by JasonCarswell in 911truth

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Did anyone ever not know this?

Sade’s “9/11 Video” – As Usual, New Breadcrumb Trails Emerge by LarrySwinger2 in 911truth

[–]IkeConn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If Sade didn't have such a stupid name she would have been a huge star.

The Mystery White Planes Of 9/11 by LarrySwinger2 in 911truth

[–]Brewdabier 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

So what's the big deal with 9 November ?.

9/11 resources on Off Guardian by zyxzevn in 911truth

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Nice.

Nein Elven Fairy Planes by LarrySwinger2 in 911truth

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No=plane theory? Sorry.. that is a conspiracy nut trap.
Too many people saw at least the second plane.
The trap is to use conspiracy nuts to attack the solid evidence behind the collapse, where so many criminals are exposed.
The nutty theories are there to break the public support for the solid evidence. It is a standard propaganda trick.

Pilots For 9/11 Truth also showed how the planes were switched with military drone version.
The remains are components from military airplanes.
And this shows a much more sinister agenda behind the attacks: The Pentagon was clearly involved.
They are involved to destroy the evidence that they put trillions of dollars in their own pockets.
The evidence was at the hit part of the pentagon, the administration section. And in tower 7.

I do think that some photographs were faked of people jumping out of the building.
These photographs could have been made a year before during the "Art Project", where people were hanging on cables from the window, as if they were falling.
They also lay the network of the demolition cables.

WTC 7 did never naturally fall, the same as the war against Kurdish people is fake.NATO openly supports a dictator called "Erdogan" in Turkey. Whose money now and then again is worth less than toilet paper. Never stop remembering. by [deleted] in 911truth

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The difference is: Me and all my Kurdish friends know what an "insurgence" is. Erdogan rather liked this word to not exist. Not only because i am a Chemist and got some military experience; i get a 9mm when doing my vacation in Egypt.

There are no coincidences. Still i need this weapon just when i go to Cairo. Lets call this an old friendship.

Nein Elven Fairy Planes by LarrySwinger2 in 911truth

[–]LarrySwinger2[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

TIL about that after-event-story. I'd like to see more on that, but don't have time to research or read now. Further, if that story is out there, I wonder if it's even true. They could have 1) locked her up because she's crazy or might talk, 2) killed her and said she's locked up, or 3) said she's locked up but maybe she's just living a quiet life or even gotten plastic surgery to live another life.

And neither do I have the time to find my sources and you know why. ;) I think she was only locked up temporarily, by the way. I remember it as a few weeks, but of course I may remember wrong.

Nein Elven Fairy Planes by LarrySwinger2 in 911truth

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

it would've been ridiculously difficult to fake the live footage that we saw

True (impossible live) for the closer RECORDED shots (but could have been faked with time). Completely opposite (easy for a pro-team with proper setup) for the distant LIVE shots.

You remember very wrong. I've never changed my stance on this. IMO it IS technically possible that there were no planes and the video was faked - but I really really doubt it with so many eye witnesses, no convincing obvious giveaways in the video, etc. Special effects have a tendency to be amazing in the moment but often age poorly - that's a HUUUUGE risk, even among pros. So far the 9/11 footage holds up. The moon landing photos and footage do not.

The trajectory of the "plane" matches up completely between all the footage.

This is simple. Use a single animation setup with several cameras matched to their angle and optics. You'll never have a fuckup, ever. If the plane doesn't show up in frame due to the perspective angle, that's too bad, the physics must not lie, even if you want a "beautiful shot" or as a hoaxer-documentarian you'd be setting yourself up for failure when people analyze your work. Which leads us to another point...

(((They))) don't give a fuck. They lie and get caught all the time. They don't care. If it was faked and they got caught they would not care at all. So, back to the original premise: they would not be taking all the effort that I know it would take to get it so perfectly nailed down to reality, physics, flight paths, etc. They don't care. This professional animation team, their gear, the connections to the LIVE feeds, etc - might cost less than a couple airplanes, but you'd have to keep the secret, be 1,000,000% certain your CGI doesn't fuck up when live, etc. Not worth the risk, time, effort, etc. Just blow up the fuckers with a plane/drone and advance your military's real-world experience.

I also have doubts about the idea of a group of people employed by news corporations who are in on it and would come together to produce fake live footage.

They do that on the regular. Wag The Dog. But when you have so many, and animators too, it gets excessive - especially with the alleged 3k deaths and the start of the Global War Of Terror.

her being institutionalized is suspicious.

TIL about that after-event-story. I'd like to see more on that, but don't have time to research or read now. Further, if that story is out there, I wonder if it's even true. They could have 1) locked her up because she's crazy or might talk, 2) killed her and said she's locked up, or 3) said she's locked up but maybe she's just living a quiet life or even gotten plastic surgery to live another life.

my impression

Sound, rational, and agreed.

Nein Elven Fairy Planes by LarrySwinger2 in 911truth

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Perhaps you keyed into this: It would have been impossible to get a good version LIVE and close up.

I remember it as you saying it would've been ridiculously difficult to fake the live footage that we saw, and that therefore the objects were probably real. You also mentioned your background as a professional animator. So when I started reading the above post, it seemed like a reiteration of the same point, but then instead you're saying that (some type of) fakery is "VERY possible". So maybe I misread your post in the past. I know your stance is that there were real objects, but does it sound like you to have emphasized the impossibility of live fakery in conjunction with your background in animation?

Obviously the animation teems would need a direct interception feed, all the proper gear, setups, etc, and a slight delay to render and re-feed. People watching on TV wouldn't notice a minute long delay.

Oh yeah, that's a good point. I never thought of that.

They would have the luxury of time to get it reasonable correct.

It's important to note that they didn't just get it reasonably correct, but entirely. The trajectory of the "plane" matches up completely between all the footage.

I also have serious doubts about how realistic this scenario is, but it's not just whether or not they could 'pull it off'. I also have doubts about the idea of a group of people employed by news corporations who are in on it and would come together to produce fake live footage. The news is, of course, 100% compromised and a key part of these psyops, but it's more subtle than this and it's always a matter of being selective in what subjects or perspectives are covered, presenting it in a manipulative way, not being critical, omitting certain details, etc. People deliberately airing footage which they know is being manipulated is something entirely different. It's a tough call, because they have most certainly done the most outrageous things. Here's the thing, though. When I first learnt that BBC World News covered the collapse of Building 7 a half hour beforehand as if it had already happened, I jumped to the conclusion that the news anchors were literally in on it. It was only later that I discovered that the woman who was covering that would later learn that WTC7 was there in the background, and that she had to be institutionalized because of the shock she underwent. It appears that she became conspiracy aware during that period, and that she had no idea what she was covering back in 2001; she was just reading from a script. (On a sidenote: her being institutionalized is suspicious. Was the shock really that big, or was this used to silence her?)

And beside that particular anchor: I also assumed the existence of that script beforehand implicated BBC World News, but then I learnt that local feds had evacuated the area, saying "they have to pull down the building", and that the BBC had simply picked up on that rumour which was already spreading around. (They picked it up falsely, thinking it had already been pulled, but such a mistake is completely natural.)

I'll give you my impression overall impression of the event, by the way. I think there were definitely objects flown into the buildings, but that they weren't passenger airliners. Rather, they were both either homing missiles surrounded by a hull that makes them look like passenger airliners, or drones that resembled them. The case for homing missiles is that both "planes" flew a trajectory consistent with a 'calling station' (not sure about the proper terminology) inside WTC7. One of them flew toward that point, the other flew over it. The evidence for that would've been destroyed alongside WTC7 later during that day, so it would've been save for them to apply this method. (Those objects had nothing to do with the collapse of the buildings, of course; it was a controlled demolition in all three cases.)

Nein Elven Fairy Planes by LarrySwinger2 in 911truth

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The critical point is that all the LIVE videos were only from a distance and thus lower resolutions and shittier imagery - more of a dark silhouette of a plane in the sky. Obviously the animation teems would need a direct interception feed, all the proper gear, setups, etc, and a slight delay to render and re-feed. People watching on TV wouldn't notice a minute long delay. This would have been much harder to get correct on the fly than the second stage.

Perhaps you keyed into this: It would have been impossible to get a good version LIVE and close up.

It's alleged that there were insider plants all over the city who just happened to have their video cameras. Or in a city of millions some just had them. Regardless, whether they controlled all that footage or went and got it (and dealt with the witnesses) stage two would have been to add the planes to all that footage. They would have the luxury of time to get it reasonable correct. If their team of videographers had also gotten similar footage in advance from the same place and time they could then be 100 steps ahead already. There's a whole lot of other stuff that could have been done to make the pipeline effective.

The second wave of videos is not "live on air" affording them time to fudge them.

Regardless, IMO it was all real, but the story was not.

Nein Elven Fairy Planes by LarrySwinger2 in 911truth

[–]LarrySwinger2[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I have and always will state, as a professional computer animator who worked in NYC from 1996 to 2004, it would have technically been VERY possible to fake the footage back then with a very capable small team with the resources necessary - however I just don't believe that to be the case.

I recall you emphasizing a different stance, namely that it would have been impossible at least to fake the live footage of the crashes, and that therefore you believe there were actual objects in the sky. This doesn't contradict what you're saying now (the conclusion is the same). But you're putting the emphasis in quite a different place now, which surprises me. Did I misread you in the past, or making a different point here?

Nein Elven Fairy Planes by LarrySwinger2 in 911truth

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I knew about the planted engine, and always wondered about that. I had assumed it was to add confusion - and it's possible they wanted to later promote the hologram theory which is nonsense.

I have and always will state, as a professional computer animator who worked in NYC from 1996 to 2004, it would have technically been VERY possible to fake the footage back then with a very capable small team with the resources necessary - however I just don't believe that to be the case.

The crazy part is how it was reported, like a magic bullet. If what the video maker is alleging is true I think we'd have seen more about the issues of this angle and trajectory. I think he's fudging his case with very selective content and his poor graphics to support his case.

9/11 families ask Biden not to attend memorial events unless he declassifies documents on Saudis by AmericanMuskrat in 911truth

[–]Tarrock 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'd rather them declassify documents on why those israelis were dancing.

9/11 families ask Biden not to attend memorial events unless he declassifies documents on Saudis by AmericanMuskrat in 911truth

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Hah!

Yes - pages might be primarily black with redactions.

9/11 families ask Biden not to attend memorial events unless he declassifies documents on Saudis by AmericanMuskrat in 911truth

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As long as they lawyer out any discussion of Mossad, dancing Israelis, Hollywood, FL, etc. etc. etc. it should be good to go!

9/11 families ask Biden not to attend memorial events unless he declassifies documents on Saudis by AmericanMuskrat in 911truth

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Indeed. And Biden would have the support of many in Congress. Here is an initial attempt in 2018:

https://fas.org/irp/congress/2018_cr/sres597.html

[Congressional Record Volume 164, Number 128 (Monday, July 30, 2018)]

[Senate]

[Pages S5457-S5458]

SUBMITTED RESOLUTIONS


SENATE RESOLUTION 597--URGING THE RELEASE OF INFORMATION REGARDING THE

SEPTEMBER 11, 2001, TERRORIST ATTACKS UPON THE UNITED STATES

Mr. BLUMENTHAL (for himself, Mr. Schumer, Mrs. Gillibrand, Mr. Murphy, and Mr. Menendez) submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs:

S. Res. 597

  Whereas tens of thousands of pages of documents relating to 
 the September 11, 2001,

[Page S5458]

terrorist attacks upon the United States remain classified by 
 the Federal Government;

  Whereas the contents of these documents are necessary for a 
 full public understanding of the events and circumstances 
 surrounding the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks;

  Whereas the decision to maintain the classified status of 
 many of these documents prevents the people of the United 
 States from having access to information about the September 
 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, including the involvement of 
 certain foreign governments in the attacks; and

  Whereas the people of the United States and the families of 
 the victims of the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks 
 deserve full and public disclosure of the events surrounding 
 the attacks: Now, therefore, be it

  Resolved, That it is the sense of the Senate that--

  (1) documents related to the events of September 11, 2001, 
 should be declassified to the greatest extent possible; and

  (2) the survivors, the families of the victims, and the 
 people of the United States deserve answers about the events 
 and circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001, 
 terrorist attacks upon the United States.

9/11 families ask Biden not to attend memorial events unless he declassifies documents on Saudis by AmericanMuskrat in 911truth

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holy moly, it's /s/goodNews

Are there still any 9/11 Truth Marches? by LarrySwinger2 in 911truth

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Thanks.

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Welcome back! I thought you had forsaken us...

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Most ppl. either have forgotten i believe. And now there is a new generation which can't even remember 9/11 .

Should 9/11 Lies Make Us Skeptical of Everything? - Jesse Ventura by zyxzevn in 911truth

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It is not just 9/11, it is the murders of JFK, RFK, MLK, the Liberty, Vietnam, Russia Gate, etc.

US War Propaganda – 9/11, Afghanistan and Iraq w/ Scott Horton (1:25:10) ~ Ryan Dawson by JasonCarswell in 911truth

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I admit I have very limited knowledge about all this stuff.

I can appreciate what Ryan Dawson and Scott Horton have to offer, but it pisses me off when they discount the many rational ideas out there without proving why they may not be true.

Anyway, as mentioned in this talk, without narration and using only news clips showing the buildup, see also:

Leading To War - The Complete Film (1:12:17)

Did the NIST Model Acknowledge the Fact, the Floor Support Joists Were Embedded in the Concrete Floors by raven9 in 911truth

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Yes I think what they call 'studs' are the ends of the diagonal cross members in the main trusses that extended upwards, out through the top members so when the concrete floor was poured they became embedded in that concrete.

Did the NIST Model Acknowledge the Fact, the Floor Support Joists Were Embedded in the Concrete Floors by raven9 in 911truth

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I don't believe that the connection of the concrete floor to the steel support structure was included in NIST's model. However, I'm not sure that's the same thing that you're talking about here. I think what I read was that NIST did not include the "studs" embedded in the floor.

9-11; 6-point Star Report by Marginotions in 911truth

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David ray griffin and Graeme MacQueen.

Get rid of Judy Wood she is disinfo.

9/11 Truth: Justice Rising with Richard Gage (34:45) ~ The Conscious Resistance by JasonCarswell in 911truth

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They are on twitter but shadowbanned. Both expose PsyOps and Zionism.

The Library of Alexandria is on Fire (50:34) ~ corbettreport by JasonCarswell in 911truth

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@30m+ Corbett explains how Twitter shadowbans people so they think their content isn't popular when actually Twitter isn't showing it to anyone. That's what the SaidIt "block user" function does. It's a shit function (though it could be improved).

9/11 Truth: Justice Rising with Richard Gage (34:45) ~ The Conscious Resistance by JasonCarswell in 911truth

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I'm not surprised but I would like to see some evidence. Not now. I'm trying to cut back my SaidIt intake so I can reorganize, refocus, and finish my first draft. But next time it comes up please ping me.

I don't know those names, but suspect I should: Ethan Serone, Chris Rulon.

9/11 resources on Off Guardian by zyxzevn in 911truth

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Can you find the one that is not a demolition (officially)..
https://off-guardian.org/2020/09/12/watch-9-demolitions-and-1-fire/

Why did NIST decide WTC steel could not conduct heat?
https://off-guardian.org/2016/09/17/why-did-nist-decide-wtc-steel-could-not-conduct-heat/

Why did John Gross claim he had no evidence of high temps in the WTC rubble?
https://off-guardian.org/2016/10/01/why-did-john-gross-claim-he-had-no-evidence-of-high-temps-in-the-wtc-rubble/

9/11 Truth: Justice Rising with Richard Gage (34:45) ~ The Conscious Resistance by JasonCarswell in 911truth

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Goodman is 100 % a crypto-Zionist. Ethan serone, Chris Rulon and others have exposed him. He's a snake and the 9/11 truth movement is filled to the brim with Zionists. They infiltrate everything.

9/11 Truth: Justice Rising with Richard Gage (34:45) ~ The Conscious Resistance by JasonCarswell in 911truth

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Goodman is far from perfect and far from 100% correct on many things. George Webb is a Zionist. Goodman said he wasn't. I believe him as far as I can. He may have nuggets of gold from time to time but generally, like many of the potentially or completely compromised or limited hangouts, I find him to be a timesuck. Spend your time elsewhere.

Goodman's contributions should be interesting with a grain of kosher salt.

" Zionists are the best subversives in the history of human civilizations. "

That's hardly new.

9/11 Truth: Justice Rising with Richard Gage (34:45) ~ The Conscious Resistance by JasonCarswell in 911truth

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WTF is Lawyers for 9/11 Truth doing with hosting the Mossad agent Jason Goodman? Honestly, if they are a controlled opposition then I'm officially saying that Zionists are the best subversives in the history of human civilizations.

The 9/11 Masterpiece - Christopher Bollyn connects every dot by LarrySwinger2 in 911truth

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It is truly a masterpiece.

There will be a Zoom conference about the post-9/11 police state at 3 PM EST. Speakers include Bill Binney, Ray McGovern, and Francis Boyle. by LarrySwinger2 in 911truth

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Here's a direct link to join the conference in your browser. Which I recommend, so that you don't have to install any proprietary software.

COVID-911: From Homeland Security to Biosecurity (33:36) ~ corbettreport by JasonCarswell in 911truth

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It's all 3s and 6.

COVID-911: From Homeland Security to Biosecurity (33:36) ~ corbettreport by JasonCarswell in 911truth

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Too short?

COVID-911: From Homeland Security to Biosecurity (33:36) ~ corbettreport by JasonCarswell in 911truth

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Friggin video is 33:36 long.

Happy 9/11 Day! by JasonCarswell in 911truth

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The expando doesn't work, but the link works to the page.

Happy 9/11 Day! by JasonCarswell in 911truth

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I guess it simply isn't reachable through Tor, then.

Happy 9/11 Day! by JasonCarswell in 911truth

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No it isn't.

9/11 Missing Links - Proof That Zionist Jews Did 9/11 by LarrySwinger2 in 911truth

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Too much for you to handle?

Happy 9/11 Day! by JasonCarswell in 911truth

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8th link is broken.

Happy 9/11 Day! by JasonCarswell in 911truth

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Why Aren't Insurers 9/11 Truthers? - Questions For Corbett by zyxzevn in 911truth

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they figure false flags are common and something that needs to be insured against. They don't care who actually brought the buildings down, just that it happened. How corrupt your govt is calculated into what insurance rates will be, because they are more likely to allow false flags to occur.

Zionists & NeoCons Manufactured 9/11 by JasonCarswell in 911truth

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Was 911 An Inside Job? - University of Kent, UK by LarrySwinger2 in 911truth

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These are helpful.

What's your review on Part 1?

Never Forget: Sept 2001 = SIX Events! [ My 2016 9-11 article. ] by JasonCarswell in 911truth

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Sure a bit of it could certainly be updated and improved now that I know a bit more, but I still stand by all of it.

September 11: The New Pearl Harbor by Drewski in 911truth

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NYC Cowers Again as 9/11 Anniversary Approaches - #NewWorldNextWeek (21:53) ~ corbettreport by JasonCarswell in 911truth

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My Bittersweet Seeds story employs drones a lot. I wouldn't say that I 'foresaw" this, so much as pieced together examples I'd seen and used my imagination to implement them with good and bad uses - just as with any tech or science.

Why Aren't Insurers 9/11 Truthers? - Questions For Corbett by zyxzevn in 911truth

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Undervoted!!!

Was 911 An Inside Job? - University of Kent, UK by LarrySwinger2 in 911truth

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Part 2 can be found here. This one is a bit of a waste of time. The speaker is a lawyer who isn't qualified to go into details about the subject, and just uses a lot of rhetoric without proving anything. It's rather curious: couldn't they find any scientists who are willing to defend the official story? Of course not; they'd put their careers in jeopardy. Just think of all the bounties put on defending the official story that have never been claimed.

Part 3, on the other hand, is one that I do recommend. It's a free-form debate, and the lawyer is actually better in this part than in his presentation. It's too bad that he has to start off with playing the antisemitism card, though.

Why Aren't Insurers 9/11 Truthers? - Questions For Corbett by zyxzevn in 911truth

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Alternative link: Show Notes and MP3

Loose Change 1st Edition by LarrySwinger2 in 911truth

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This one is not as good as the second edition, which has become a classic, but it's an important piece of history. The first edition had been hard to find for a long time, but it was reuploaded to Bitchute last year. Enjoy.

The Ultimate 9/11 Red Pill Part 2 by LarrySwinger2 in 911truth

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It's 9/11 week, so I'll be posting documentaries about it. To kick things off, I'm reposting this 18 hour long collection of information. Freshly released just a couple of weeks ago. Do note that there's misinformation in there, but I'm posting it so you can discover material you might not have encountered before. There's an index in the video description.

9/11 Suspects (Full Documentary | 2016) by HegeMoney in 911truth

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A+++

exploring nuclear 9/11 rational mind by Marginotions in 911truth

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The Israelis would not of had to steal nuclear triggers in the US with front companies, whether Shapiro at NUMEC or Milchan and his henchmen spies, and risk their lives, or Vanunu, having exposed Dimona being jailed for nearly lifenin Isreal, if nukes were fake.

Justice Rising on 9/11 Truth - Richard Gage on The Corbett Report by zyxzevn in 911truth

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SHOW NOTES AND MP3: https://www.corbettreport.com/?p=37616

Richard Gage of AE911Truth.org joins us to discuss the various actions, inquests, studies, documentaries and conferences that are happening around the 19th anniversary of 9/11.

NIST Refuses to Correct Inaccuracies in Building Seven Report! by PecosinRat in 911truth

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AE911Truth reports today that last Friday (28Aug2020) NIST refused to correct the inaccuracies in its report on the destruction of Building Seven of the World Trade Center. The truth group indicated that they will appeal that decision within NIST as the next step in its efforts to get acknowledgement of the white-wash nature of NIST's Building Seven report. Read AE911Truth's more detailed report of NIST's actions at the link above.

The expiration date of my milk reminded me of an upcoming anniversary. It's already in sight. by LarrySwinger2 in 911truth

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It's just a file host, has nothing to do with 4chan.

The expiration date of my milk reminded me of an upcoming anniversary. It's already in sight. by LarrySwinger2 in 911truth

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Good god that site was cancer

exploring nuclear 9/11 rational mind by Marginotions in 911truth

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Disagree. There is plenty of evidence for nukes, and facts are facts. Since the de jure authorities are still avoiding all truths, it's up to volunteers to find whatever they can to fill up the info-vacuum. They found enough to fill in many blanks in favor of the alternative narrative.

9-11; 6-point Star Report by Marginotions in 911truth

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Sorry Pecos in Rat, but this comment reeks of uninformed. You are for sure not well educated in what the whole conspiracy was about.

exploring nuclear 9/11 rational mind by Marginotions in 911truth

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This article suggests that nuclear devices were the cause of the collapses of the towers on 9/11 and that there were no planes involved. This particular approach is a detriment to the efforts to bring about 9/11 truth, if for no other reason than 99% of the people will dismiss it out of hand. We must get to the point of broad public consensus that the official explanation is not just wrong, but criminally wrong, before the "how it happened" question can be asked and effectively answered. Until then the best strategy is bringing undeniable facts back to the public conversation rather than engage in speculations that--to many of the public--are a perfect demonstration of our dismiss-able nuttiness.

9-11; 6-point Star Report by Marginotions in 911truth

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While there seems to be logical reasons to involve intelligence agencies from outside the US in an operation of this kind (e.g. other country's operators might not be so squeamish with regard to actions that kill Americans). It is extremely premature to try to identify whether people or organizations outside the US might have been involved, what exactly that involvement might have been (lead, assist, look-the-other-way), and what they might expect in return. First, we need to get to the point that a strong majority of Americans understand that the "9/11 Commission Report" is a cover-up of crimes against humanity. Once that occurs, perhaps prosecutors can begin the court-dominated investigations needed to find out exactly who the criminals are. Justice at the level of local prosecutors, judges, and jurors is a lot more difficult to control. That's why so much effort has been made from day-one to avoid anything about 9/11 going to court.

Donald Trump Said He Thought There Were Bombs On The Planes On 9/11 by CompleteDoubterII in 911truth

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First posted this on Notabug.

G Maxwell, J Epstein linked to 9-11, Russian intel reports, MOSSAD + JFK Jr. -Isreal connection? by Marginotions in 911truth

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Trumo is a gatekeeper. The day of 9/11 he said they were bombed and there was no way they could come down like that on a radio show. Two days later he goes on television and literally soews the government sanctioned narrative that the "fires were too damn hot and it was inevitable for the buildings to collapse."

I take it Trump realized his best friends, Silverstein, Netanyahu and the Likud did Israel. Welp, now it's time to cover for them.

Who Was Warned? Trump - Silverstein - Netanyahu by Jesus in 911truth

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9/11 was predicted through the Israeli messaging service, Odigo.

Anonymous text messages were received, stating the attack would happen at a specific time. Washington Post published,

"The notes ended with an anti-Semitic slur." No follow up has ever been reported.

LMFAO, Jewish Likudnik Zionists had to warn their own that they were going to kill thousands of their enemies in the US but had to, oh so had to, end it with an anti-Semitic slur, as the story goes so that they could follow up the story or simply discredit those getting to close to the truth concerning this issue by saying:

Hey look, it couldn't have been a Jew who warned other Jews about this attack, he was an anti-Semite (misnomor) it must have been a muslim who was boasting about it before it happened and who magically warned many Jews about what was to transpire so they would be spared.

This 5-Minute Intro to SEVEN, the Documentary on Building 7 Collapse, to Run on 200 PBS Stations Nationwide over 3 months. by PecosinRat in 911truth

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I am also one of the nine. Screw eleven! Bring back oneteen.

This 5-Minute Intro to SEVEN, the Documentary on Building 7 Collapse, to Run on 200 PBS Stations Nationwide over 3 months. by PecosinRat in 911truth

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I've decided to become a 9/11-denier. It never happened.

This 5-Minute Intro to SEVEN, the Documentary on Building 7 Collapse, to Run on 200 PBS Stations Nationwide over 3 months. by PecosinRat in 911truth

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Assuming this is true: it will be interesting to see how they spin the media manipulation of 9/11.

Will the public find out about the major role that Israel played?

Or the FBI? Or the courts?

They're probably intending to use the 9/11 false flag evidence to accelerate a civil war in the US; assuming it's true and they actually run it on PBS.

I wonder if they'll broadcast this during plandemic scamdemic #2...?

For comparison a normal collapse. New Orleans Hard Rock Hotel (Sept 2019) by zyxzevn in 911truth

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I put it up here as comparison.
Notice how it does NOT collapse in freefall into its own footprint.
During to this accident 7 people died.

10,000 gallons of jet fuel next to the WTC. Share this antibody to neutralize pathogens such as misinformation. CC attribution by useless_aether in 911truth

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A gallon of roughly jet fuel (gasoline) (1) can drive roughly a ton of metal (your car) roughly 30 miles (2).

2 WTCs weighed roughly 1M tons (3). So, the equivalent energy of one gallon would move them at most a millionth of a car's MPG, or 30 / 1M = 3*10-5 miles, or about 2 inches.

But of course, a "jet crashing into a building" is not a very efficient automobile. So, lots of that energy ends up as heat instead of just motion - which is why you need 10k gallons instead of just one. Heat which might, say, melt steel beams.

TL;DR: Inconclusive. I won't waste any more time on this.

  1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_density#Tables_of_energy_content
  2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_economy_in_automobiles#/media/File:Fuel_economy_vs_speed_1997.png
  3. http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a091201weightdispute

Richard Gage Warns False Flag School Shootings a Legacy of 9/11 by Tom_Bombadil in 911truth

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Richard Gage Warns False Flag School Shootings a Legacy of 9/11 by Tom_Bombadil in 911truth

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Video does not exist???

The Evidence Is In, Where To Now? by PecosinRat in 911truth

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Regardless. Truth, or bust.